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Tropical Storm Vicente (2018) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator(s): NoahTalk 18:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Asking for an A-class review for this article. I would like to eventually take this to FAC. NoahTalk 18:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "was an unusually small tropical cyclone" - you never mention the storm size directly, so how do we know what's usual for a TC size?
  • "The twenty-first named storm" - why not write it as a number?
  • "A brief break from the dry air during the next day allowed the storm to recuperate and slightly strengthen before outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused further weakening. " - that's a lot
  • What was the peak rainfall?
  • "The heavy rainfall caused numerous rivers to spill their banks, dozens of landslides to occur, and severe flooding to ensue elsewhere." - grammar is off
  • "Plan DN-III-E was activated in multiple states to provide aid to a large number of affected individuals" - why not write in the lead how many people were affected
  • Maybe mention somewhere that convection = thunderstorms?
  • Maybe mention that the NHC didn't anticipate development due to the system's small size and nearby presence of Willa?
  • "The depression was upgraded into Tropical Storm Vicente around 18:00 UTC" - that's the first time reference this paragraph
  • "Throughout the majority of the day, October 19, the system was less than 115 mi (185 km) off the coast of Guatemala while it inched towards the northwest." - that's kinda weird (bold part). It'd be more useful to know how close it was, not just "less than 115 mi"
  • Cut the of the day part. I think the fact that it was so close for so long is more important than a slightly closer point. Keep in mind that I do mention it being only 90 mi away when it formed into a TD. I dont see the need to mention anything closer than that when it was very close to the coast for the entire day. NoahTalk 19:47, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was located less than 115 mi (185 km) off the coast of Chiapas and Oaxaca, Mexico" - was located less than 115 mi off the Mexican coast, off the states of Chiapas and Oaxaca" - just a suggested rewording
  • "An overall green alert" - is "overall" redundant?
  • "Rainfall totals of 6.21 in (157.7 mm) and 5.31 in (134.8 mm) were recorded in Zihuatanejo, Guerrero" - two rainfall totals for the same location?
  • "Residents were evacuated from the Jacarandas neighborhood by state officials and police officers after a gasoline leak occurred." - was the leak related to the storm?
  • "The Rio Grande river overflowed and drainage systems were completely filled throughout the Morelia municipality." - Rio Grande = Big River in Spanish, so that reads "The Big River River". Also, add a comma
  • "Ventura Puente, Carlos Salazar, Jacarandas, Los Manantiales, and Industrial experienced flooding up to 1 m (3.3 ft) deep"- are these neighborhoods of Morelia? If so, add that to the earlier bit when you mention the 27 neighborhoods being flooded
  • "The heavy rainfall also caused the ground to give way near Atapaneo" - so a landslide?
  • Yeah, but the phrase clearly means collapse and I don't want to include another instance of landslide given its usage later on. From pictures, it didn't look like it was that much anyways. It seemed to be just enough to break the track and cause the train to derail. NoahTalk 20:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A storm drainage ditch that empties into the Chahué Bay overflowed" - wording could be stronger
  • "Part of the drainage ditch collapsed and a sinkhole developed on a bridge." - the drainage part should be in the previous sentence. Also, if a bridge is over water, how can a sinkhole occur on a bridge?
  • Added via semicolon. I dont know whether the collapse caused flooding so I cant use "and" to connect the two. Don't ask how sinkholes can occur on bridges. I really don't know how they do and numerous English sources have reported sinkholes on bridges. NoahTalk 21:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Twenty-one communities were left without any outside communication as a result of severe floods" - are these the same 21 you mentioned being isolated earlier?
  • "In the Santa Cruz de Tuxtepec neighborhood, affected individuals were removing mud from their homes after river flooding decreased." - wouldn't residents affected by floods be doing the same elsewhere in the state?
  • "A fence collapsed in Santiago Jamiltepec, resulting in several homes being inundated by floodwaters." - how does a fence collapsing = flooding?
  • "Fringe effects from the storm triggered flooding in Veracruz, leaving three people dead." - can you be clearer what these fringe effects are? Like, did it rain in the state?
  • " In the Álamo-temapache municipality, the Green stream " - I'm guessing this is because of translation, but for water and land features, we should use the original language

All in all a pretty good article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: Everything should be addressed. NoahTalk 21:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to support for A-class! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:13, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]