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Tropical Storm Hermine (1998)

Archived discussion. Current status: {{GA-Class}}

Support per comments in initial nomination. Cyclone biskit 15:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose. Sorry, but I'm a uncomfortable of the lack of Florida impact. Heavy rainfall, up to 14 inches, needs more info than what is there. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I intentionally left out quite a bit of info, as Hermine only partially contributed to the Florida impact. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Hermine was responsible at all for the Florida impact, it should be mentioned. You need to be careful in your wording, but it can be done. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

True, but "being careful in your wording" equates to WP:WEASEL. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. If you have proof that Hermine dropped X inches of rainfall in Florida on Y date, and you have a source that on Y date that says Z happened, then it could be included. For an A-class article, it's better to be comprehensive then restrictive. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article does mention the Florida rainfall, though. In my opinion, any further information would be irrelevant. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Damage? Houses flooded? Power outages? Any of the above which could come from over a foot of rain? Seems highly relevant to me... --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was damage, but it was only marginally related to the precursor to Hermine; I'd be willing to add it to another page but I still feel it would be too broad for this article. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Generally it's been a practice to include marginally related impact to a TC article, if there is no other article it can belong in. I just think the article leaves the reader longing for more when the Florida section is so short. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

–Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 16:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Lead
- Tropical Storm Hermine was the eighth tropical cyclone and named storm of the 1998 Atlantic hurricane season. link "tropical cyclone" and "named storm", also try and make an original opening sentence.
  - Links added, but I disagree that the opening sentence should be changed. The current format places the storm into context with the rest of the season. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The wave moved westward across the Atlantic Ocean, and on entering the northwest Caribbean Sea interacted with other weather systems; the resultant system was declared a tropical depression on September 17. Although it's supposed to be a quick summary, it skips too much. There is a time gap and it forms somewhere (the GoM wasn't mentioned) before hitting Louisiana.
- When did it make landfall in Louisiana?
  - The above two aren't necessary, IMO. The lead is supposed to be an overall summary, not a comprehensive timeline (although I did mention that it formed in the GoM). –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In some areas, the storm tide prolonged the coastal flooding from a previous storm. What was the previous storm? Was it a tropical cyclone?
Meteorological history
- - Clarified. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Link "thunderstorm activity"
  - Unnecessary; everybody knows what thunderstorms are. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- When did it reach the Windward Islands?
  - Not sure. I can't find a specific date. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Impact
- Rainfall totals for Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina?
  - I'd rather not overuse boring numbers, but I'll add it if you feel it's necessary. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Add that the name was previously used in 1980
  - Done. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]