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Proposals, February 2011

Split of Category:European political party stubs

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Even considering that some of the templates have not fully moved to new categories, the European political party stubs is over 800, and I'm not finding any more countries that can support a full category at this time. I'd like to propose a split of Europe, mostly based on the UN geoscheme. Propose the following new parent-only categories:

Dawynn (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Support all, but... it's advisable you check the definitions of "Eastern Europe", since the term is regarded as derogatory in some parts of the former Soviet Bloc (the term "Central Europe" is preferred in those parts which weren't in the Soviet Union, IIRC). Grutness...wha? 22:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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{{NorthCaucasus-geo-stub}}

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Today Category:Russia geography stubs splits into 7 subcats, one for each of the Federal Districts of the Russian Federation. In 2010, they divided the Southern Federal District (Category:Southern Russia geography stubs) into two, splitting off the new North Caucasian Federal District. We should create a stub cat for the new District, in order to be consistent, and reorder the tree, regardless of the number of currently existing stubs (there are 252 total in South-Russia today). -- Y not? 17:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

  • That would be {{NorthCaucasus-geo-stub}}, without the hyphen, since it's the name of the new district, rather than a stub for just a subpart of a Caucasian Federal District. I'd certainly support a template, and a category iff it reaches the 60-stub threshold. Grutness...wha? 21:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Ya, I bet it would, given the 252 in the parent. Do I need to go count? I forgot how things work around here, Grutness - I haven't been around WSS in a couple of years... Even if it doesn't reach sixty, wouldn't it make sense to make a template for consistency anyway? -- Y not? 03:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
        • Best thing would probably be to make the template upmerged at first - it'll be easy for anyone using the template to see (with the "what links here") if and when it gets to 60. Since it's been brought up here and general comments seem to be supporting the category if it reaches threshold, it can be speedily made and added to the template once it gets there - by you if you get there during the sorting :) Since a lot of the stubs are already sorted by Oblast for Russia, it should be pretty easy to work out quickly enough if there are enough stubs for a category. Grutness...wha? 10:46, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
      • Support template, no matter the number of articles. Support category if 60+ articles can be found. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
If my understanding is correct, the new Region contains the following seven oblasts which we already have geo-stubs for:
Which gives 118 and enough for a category already (unless I've missed something?). SeveroTC 11:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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{{Georgia-election-stub}}

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Template for elections in the country of Georgia. Will double-upmerge to Category:European election stubs and Category:Asian election stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Canadian ice hockey centre stubs

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Starting to get large propose we follow the defencemen and wingers and split by Dob along the lines of {{Canada-icehockey-centre-1980s-stub}} and Category:Canadian ice hockey centre, 1980s birth stubs. Waacstats (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Finnish ice hockey biography stubs

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Another one getting larger propose we follow the standard and split

categories only for those templates reaching 60. Waacstats (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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More sport by countries

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Propose the next bunch of sport by country templates and categories. All Category:Fooian sport stubs categories and {{foo-sport-stub}} templates are new and all other upmergable templates and categories already exist except where the templates are marked (*). This covers all European countries from Iceland upwards in terms of population.

Europe
Category:Albanian sport stubs {{Albania-sport-stub}} (21) {{Albania-sports-venue-stub}} 24; {{Albania-footyclub-stub}} 43
Category:Armenian sport stubs {{Armenia-sport-stub}} (58) (*){{Armenia-sports-venue-stub}} 12; {{Armenia-footyclub-stub}} 7
Category:Austrian sport stubs {{Austria-sport-stub}} (44) {{Austria-sports-venue-stub}} 46; {{Austria-footyclub-stub}} 13
Category:Azerbaijani sport stubs {{Azerbaijan-sport-stub}} (43) {{Azerbaijan-sports-venue-stub}} 22; {{Azerbaijan-footyclub-stub}} 27
Category:Belarusian sport stubs {{Belarus-sport-stub}} (38) {{Belarus-sports-venue-stub}} 22; {{Belarus-footyclub-stub}} 56
Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina sport stubs {{BosniaHerzegovina-sport-stub}} (32) {{BosniaHerzegovina-sports-venue-stub}} 21; {{BosniaHerzegovina-footyclub-stub}} 42
Category:Bulgarian sport stubs {{Bulgaria-sport-stub}} (33) {{Bulgaria-sports-venue-stub}} 35; {{Bulgaria-footyclub-stub}} 41
Category:Cypriot sport stubs {{cyprus-sport-stub}} (35) {{cyprus-sports-venue-stub}} 15; {{{cyprus-footyclub-stub}} 29
Category:Georgian (country) sport stubs {{Georgia-sport-stub}} (31) {{Georgia-sports-venue-stub}} 17; {{Georgia-footyclub-stub}} 39
Category:Hungarian sport stubs {{Hungary-sport-stub}} (63) {{{Hungary-sports-venue-stub}} 28; {{{Hungary-footyclub-stub}} 13
Category:Icelandic sport stubs {{Iceland-sport-stub}} (60) {{Iceland-sports-venue-stub}} 15; {{Iceland-footyclub-stub}} 24
Category:Kazakhstani sport stubs {{Kazakhstan-sport-stub}} (49) {{Kazakhstan-sports-venue-stub}} 19; {{Kazakhstan-footyclub-stub}} 40
Category:Latvian sport stubs {{Latvia-sport-stub}} (57) {{Latvia-sports-venue-stub}} 14; Category:Latvian football club stubs
Category:Lithuanian sport stubs {{Lithuania-sport-stub}} (70) {{Lithuania-sports-venue-stub}} 17; Category:Lithuanian football club stubs
Category:Maltese sport stubs {{Malta-sport-stub}} (38) {{Malta-sports-venue-stub}} 8; {{Malta-footyclub-stub}} 22
Category:Moldovan sport stubs {{Moldova-sport-stub}} (27) {{Moldova-sports-venue-stub}} 12; {{Moldova-footyclub-stub}} 17
Category:Montenegrin sport stubs {{Montenegro-sport-stub}} (63) {{Montenegro-sports-venue-stub}} 16; {{Montenegro-footyclub-stub}} 18
Category:Portuguese sport stubs {{Portugal-sport-stub}} (60) Category:Portuguese sports venue stubs ; Category:Portuguese football club stubs
Category:Serbian sport stubs {{Serbia-sport-stub}} (56) {{Serbia-sports-venue-stub}} 36; Category:Serbian football club stubs
Category:Slovakian sport stubs {{Slovakia-sport-stub}} (26) {{Slovakia-sports-venue-stub}} 45; {{Slovakia-footyclub-stub}} 41
Category:Slovenian sport stubs {{Slovenia-sport-stub}} (23) {{Slovenia-sports-venue-stub}} 20; {{Slovenia-footyclub-stub}} 26
Category:Swiss sport stubs {{Switzerland-sport-stub}} (57) {{Switzerland-sports-venue-stub}} 51; {{Switzerland-footyclub-stub}} 42
Others
Category:Chilean sport stubs {{Chile-sport-stub}} (57) (*){{Chile-sports-venue-stub}} 40
Category:Mexican sport stubs {{Mexico-sport-stub}} (87) {{Mexico-sports-venue-stub}} ; {{Mexico-baseball-team-stub}} 22 ; {{Mexico-basketball-team-stub}} 24 ; (*){{Mexico-footyclub-stub}} 37
Category:Pakistani sport stubs (*){{Pakistan-sport-stub}} (31) {{Pakistan-sports-venue-stub}} 34; {{Pakistan-footyclub-stub}}
Category:Uruguayan sport stubs {{Uruguay-sport-stub}} (59) (*){{Uruguay-sports-venue-stub}} 30

Categories only when 60 is reached from the upmergable templates. I think that Moldova is the only one a little short but it may just tip 60. SeveroTC 21:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

good work there severo, Support all and given that we will have bio categories for all those I think any that do fall a little short would be OK. Waacstats (talk) 21:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
OOps yeah, forgot to mention that all will also have bio cats as subcats. SeveroTC 21:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Support every blessed one. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Yup, these look like goers - I think that you can probably add Luxembourg to the list, too. Grutness...wha? 04:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
We already have Category:Luxembourgian sport stubs. Templates for the small states are a possibility which I will look at in the days ahead. SeveroTC 08:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh! okaaay- I was going by the footyclub stub, which feeds directly into Category:Luxembourg stubs. I'll change that... Grutness...wha? 11:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
A {{Fiji-sport-stub}}/{{Fiji-sports-venue-stub}}/{{Fiji-footyclub-stub}} combination would account for close to 70 articles, enough for a Category:Fijian sport stubs, and it would also have bio subcat. Grutness...wha? 01:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I will add it to the list. I haven't had a close look at - well - anywhere outside of Europe yet, just done a few of the more obvious candidates. SeveroTC 19:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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Wintersport bios

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The following should all be viable

obviously categories iff the templates do reach 60 (I'm not 100% confident of the Hungarian one).

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:American ice hockey centre stubs

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upmerged template {{US-icehockey-centre-stub}} has just passed 60. anyone fancy speedying it. Waacstats (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - I may touch it later if no one else does. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Support, with a question - "centre" or "center"? (same with Canada, above) Grutness...wha? 22:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
The perm cats and articles use centre I see no reason to change this, my guess is as ice hockey is a Canadian sport it uses Commonwealth spelling as opposed to the american center.. Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Good point. Japan has judo, China has king fu, Korea has taekwondo - the Canadian martial art is hockey :) Grutness...wha? 11:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Kazakhstani winter sports biography stubs

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should be viable, fed by {{Kazakhstan-wintersport-bio-stub}} and {{Kazakhstan-icehockey-bio-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - I'm always willing to give such things a sporting chance. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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Various splits of ice hockey bios

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Firstly, Category:Asian ice hockey biography stubs should be viable, fed by the existing {{Japan-icehockey-bio-stub}}, {{SouthKorea-icehockey-bio-stub}} and three new templates {{Asia-icehockey-bio-stub}}, {{kazakhstan-icehockey-bio-stub}} and {{PRChina-icehockey-bio-stub}}.

Secondly the following categories should be viable

and finally in tidying up the european cat I may want a few templates such as {{Austria-icehockey-bio-stub}}, {{Italy-icehockey-bio-stub}} and maybe others. Hope that is not to difficult to follow. Waacstats (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Support breaking the ice. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Asia politics stubs

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To pick up these categories:

Dawynn (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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Jurist stubs

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The result of the debate was create as law-bio-stub.

Could use some pruning - though not oversized, it contains 504 stubs on its own. Might I suggest Category:European jurist stubs as a subcat? It would be populated by either {{Euro-jurist-stub}} or individual country templates. I'm in favor of the latter, but would consider the former as well. Thoughts? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support principal, but are not existing templates for European countries at {{Foo-law-bio-stub}} in which case I would think we are better off sticking to using -law-bio-stub instead of -jursit-stub. Also I would suggest using national templates for ost nations with a {{Europe-law-bio-stub}} to mop up the countries with only a couple of articles. Waacstats (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Again it';s worth pointing out that the term jurist has different meanings on the two sides of the Atlantic, too, which may add to the confusion. Grutness...wha? 00:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
...I knew that. Sorry.
's what I get for suggesting stub tags while half-asleep... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Caribbean-actor-stub}}

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Looks like it could be useful, at least as a template - not sure about category yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support template, category iff we get it to 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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More South American actor stubs

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{{Peru-actor-stub}} and {{Colombia-actor-stub}} are both viable, though I don't think either will need a category yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant, and categories iff we have 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Chile-actor-stub}}

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Amazed we don't have this yet. Category:Chilean actor stubs would be the category, if necessary (which it may be, actually...not sure yet.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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South Sudan stubs

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As per the referendum of last month, Southern Sudan is going to become independent (as South Sudan) in July of this year. Is it too early to discuss creating stub tags for the new country? I don't see that we have any as yet. I think we'll need:

I can't imagine that there will be any others yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Discussion's already started here. It's also mentioned on the Discoveries page due to the discovery of {{SouthernSudan-stub}}. I think it is still too soon to make them, since the name of the new country's still not been formalised AFAIK, but once it is it'll be a good idea to start, and those four make perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 21:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps I had misread, or it was misquoted in the media, but I think "South Sudan" has since been formalized. There was some comment about other names being bandied about, but not being adopted. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, if that's the official one, it'd be the one to use (just a case of finding confirmation, I guess...) Grutness...wha? 23:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no problem with the idea here but our articles seem to use Southern Sudan at the moment so that would be where I would suggest calling the templates, better yet I think would be to hold off completley till we have a confirmed name. Waacstats (talk) 23:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Mind you, making them at one name with redirects at the other might make sense - we can always reverse the redirects if necessary. It sounds like the only names being used by the media and by the (Southern) Sudanese themselves are these two. Grutness...wha? 00:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
That of course assumes that they don't eventually decide on some other name. Waacstats (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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New politics categories

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I should have seen these earlier, as I was requesting the political party categories:

Dawynn (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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More political party country categories

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The result of the debate was Create Cyprus tag, do not create tags for disputed nations.
Found a few articles for Cyprus, currently tagged with {{Europe-party-stub}}:

And a couple controversial ones. Should I create these, or just tag with the optional tag indicated?

Dawynn (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support the first. Regarding the latter two: as I recall, it's not practice to create stubs for such subnational entities that have very little, if any, international recognition. Am I correct, or do my wits woolgather? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Exactly right. Support Cyprus, oppose the other two. And Northern Cyprus gets tagged with the Cyprus tag for exactly the same reason. Grutness...wha? 21:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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Sport by country cats

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As Waacstats predicted, speediable cats and {{Venezuela-sports-venue-stub}}:

Let me know if I've missed anything. SeveroTC 12:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Turkish political party stubs

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Speedy request. To pick up {{Turkey-party-stub}}. 63 articles. Dawynn (talk) 11:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Polish political party stubs

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Speedy request. To pick up {{Poland-party-stub}} - 61 articles. Dawynn (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Swedish political party stubs

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Speedy request. Will pick up {{Sweden-party-stub}}. (120 P) If someone is familiar with politics in Sweden, please review whether I've tagged only appropriate articles. Some of these may only be remotely tied to a party. Dawynn (talk) 19:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Georgia-party-stub}}

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Proposal to build a template for Georgia (country), upmerge to Category:Georgia (country) stubs. See the "Continental delineation" header here for a discussion as to whether this should double-upmerge to Category:European political party stubs or Category:Asian political party stubs. Dawynn (talk) 16:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - what about both? I think I've seen that choice before. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:European election stubs

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Propose the following templates:

List of proposed templates

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:European government stubs

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Propose the following templates:

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Association football competition stubs

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three currently upmerged templates have passed 60 any objections to creating the categories:

Waacstats (talk) 23:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

S(up)port all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - but perhaps to make them all (or certainly the North American one) "Foo association football competition stubs". Grutness...wha? 21:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no problem with that but I think we need to look at all the subcats of association football stubs as the only Continents with any disambig are North America and Oceania and those are Oceanian football (Soccer) club stubs. Waacstats (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Just the NorthAm one, then - only having the word "football" is bound to cause confusion there. Grutness...wha? 02:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Albania politics stubs / {{Albania-poli-stub}}

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Could not quite muster enough articles specifically under political parties, but this is feasible. New category would house...

Subcategorize under Category:Albania stubs and Category:Politics stubs (or better, if approved: Category:Europe politics stubs) Dawynn (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - another thing you might want to look at, Dawynn, is Europe election stubs. Looks like there's a lot of undersorting (Germany could probably get to threshold), and a lot of missing templates. Grutness...wha? 22:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Europe politics stubs / {{Europe-poli-stub}}

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Proposal of new category and template. Propose placing the following as subcategories:

Dawynn (talk) 16:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - also fixed the name in the header {{...-stubs}} to {{...-stub}} Grutness...wha? 22:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:European political party stubs

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I see that this is nearing the 800 mark. Asking permission to explore a breakup of this category. Please approve the following templates:

List of proposed templates

All of these will upmerge to Category:European political party stubs as well as the respective country category. Dawynn (talk) 13:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - I'm a bit surprised we don't have these yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Do it up. Aelfthrytha (talk) 03:21, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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British sport stubs

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As per the discussion below:

By constituent country (each to include relevant football club and sportspeople stub categories)


Sports venues with approximate numbers - categories if 60 threshold reached.

I'm not entirely sure how to sort English sports venue stubs - I was thinking to create templates for each region but many of the regions already have subcategories on the county level - but creating county level sports venue templates seems a bit extreme. SeveroTC 12:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I think this looks good, I don't see any reason for splitting the English sports venues just yet, don't forget the bio stubs for Wales and NI Sports stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Support all suggestions. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Macedonian sport stubs

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To pull in existing category:

And existing templates:

Dawynn (talk) 15:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{CharacterEncoding-stub}} / Category:Digital typography stubs

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Permcat for template is Category:Character encoding. Proposing to use this template along with the existing {{digital-typography-stub}} template to build the new category. Currently 45 articles under {{digital-typography-stub}}, so I'm betting we can find at least 15 more under character encoding for the new category. Dawynn (talk) 15:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{WordProcessor-stub}} / Category:Word Processor stubs

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I've been dumping these articles in Category:Business software stubs, since they typically are included in what are known as "Office Suites". However, I'm guessing there may be enough here for a true separate category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{cms-software-stub}} / Category:Content management system stubs

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Permcat Category:Content management systems. At least a template is due here. Possibly able to support a category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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split of Category:Rugby union team stubs

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Tidying this up a bit and it looks like a {{Argentina-rugbyunion-team-stub}} would be of use, don't know for sure if it would hit 60 but would certainly get more use than any of the current upmerged templates (England, France, Ireland, Italy, Australia, NewZealand and SouthAfrica) though they are probably under used. Category:Argentine rugby union team stubs iff it gets to 60.Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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split of Category:European ice hockey biography stubs

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Again not 100% sure these will need categories but the following would both be useful (Catscan counts are not being much help as a lot of players are in by team categories which are obvoiusly also used on foriegn players of those teams)

Categories iff we get to 60. Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{Install-software-stub}} / Category:Installation software stubs

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Requesting this new template and potential category to sift off permcat installation software articles from Category:Software stubs. Not sure how many this will pick up at this time. A cross-category catscan only indicates about 13 articles, while a size-based scan indicates possibly as high as 93. Category to be built only when template reaches 60 articles. Dawynn (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Canadian ice hockey winger stubs

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Three of the upmerged templates have passed the 60 mark propose the following

Waacstats (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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Category:American weightlifting biography stubs

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enough articles have been found to push {{US-weightlifting-bio-stub}} above 60, any objections to speedying the category. Waacstats (talk) 18:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy Create of Category:Trenčín geography stubs

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{{Trenčín-geo-stub}} is currently upmerged to Category:Slovakia geography stubs, which I'm trying to wrangle down from 600+. Catscan shows 95 stubs for this category, and I'm still tagging many as I go through. Aelfthrytha (talk) 04:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks good enough for a speedy to me. Waacstats (talk) 22:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Réunion-bio-stub}}

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Not enough for a category as yet, but I think the above would be most helpful in at least helping out with sorting. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{Old West-book-stub}} and {{Old West-geo-stub}}

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I submitted two templates at WP:AFC yesterday, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-book-stub and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-geo-stub, but was told to submit them here. I think they qualify under the second clause for "speedy creation" as a sub-category of Category:United States history stubs (see {{US-hist-book-stub}}). The vast majority of articles in Category:American Old West stubs are currently either books or historical locations. 72.74.206.120 (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The geo stub cat would not be a good idea and given the fact that the parent only contains 47 articles I would have to say no to the book stub as well. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree. Certainly geo-stubs only use current locations, so they should be in whichever state or subdivision of state that is appropriate, with any "Old West-stub" (how did it slip through with a non-standard name?) as a secondary stub type. In any case "the vast majority" is of a very small category. Soince the standard size of thinking about splitting a category into subtypes is around 800 stubs, there's no point whatsoever at present of even considering other templates - and when we do, they should be at names in line with the naming conventions for stub templates. Grutness...wha? 22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Agreed with Big G. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
"Big G"??? :) Grutness...wha? 05:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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Sri Lanka geo

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This may be a two-stage process including "superspeedying" at the first stage... Category:Sri Lanka geography stubs is waaay oversized (2200 stubs)... but that's because several of the provinces do not yet have their own subcategories. I propose:

The second stage, then, obviously, would be to find subcategories for Central Province. It's divided into three districts, which are each divided into an average of a dozen divisional secretariats. It seems very likely that the three districts at least should each have their own template (and probably category. That would mean creating:

Grutness...wha? 21:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. a.) it's not a bad idea, and b.) I think I may be responsible for some of that... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Update - I've done the first part, but it looks like very few of the stubs for CentralLK have details of which district they're in... Grutness...wha? 23:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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Cycling venue stubs

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Propose speedy Category:Cycling venue stubs as {{cycling-venue-stub}} ended up with over 80 articles. SeveroTC 20:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support, looks good. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Afghanistan-geo-stub}} categories

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Parent category is currently at 939.

Propose breaking off into separate categories to get the parent down to about 525:

{{Farah-geo-stub}} - 139 {{Faryab-geo-stub}} - 112 {{Ghazni-geo-stub}} - 101 {{Samangan-geo-stub}} - 63

Aelfthrytha (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Assuming cats at Foo Province geography stubs then support, and nice to see another old face coming back. Waacstats (talk)
Don't support -- I can't find any stubs tagged with Foo Province, let alone enough to justify a category. Just kidding. It's good to be back. I was off engaged in some foolishness (getting a law degree and passing the bar). I should be around more now that those two projects are put to bed. Aelfthrytha (talk) 23:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
So why were you passing the bar? Methinks the best idea would be to go inside, instead...
Sorry.--Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The first thing most of us did after taking the bar was go to the bar. :) Aelfthrytha (talk) 23:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Add that to the list of reasons I don't think I want to go to law school... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Support from me too. Good to see you Æ! Grutness...wha? 01:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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More television stubs

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SeveroTC 12:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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Sport stubs by country

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Propose the following templates/categories:

Stub Category Existing subcategories/upmerged templates
{{Argentina-sport-stub}} 156 Category:Argentine sport stubs {{Argentina-basketball-team-stub}} (18), Category:Argentine sportspeople stubs, Category:Argentine football club stubs and Category:Argentine sports venue stubs
{{Colombia-sport-stub}} 56 Category:Colombian sport stubs Category:Colombian sportspeople stubs and {{Colombia-sports-venue-stub}} (27)
{{Croatia-sport-stub}} 36
{{CzechRepublic-sport-stub}} 56 Category:Czech sport stubs Category:Czech sportspeople stubs, {{CzechRepublic-footyclub-stub}} (46) and {{CzechRepublic-sports-venue-stub}} (56)
{{Denmark-sport-stub}} 64 Category:Danish sport stubs Category:Danish sportspeople stubs, Category:Danish football club stubs and Category:Danish sports venue stubs
{{Egypt-sport-stub}} 33
{{Estonia-sport-stub}} 59 Category:Estonian sport stubs Category:Estonian sportspeople stubs, {{Estonia-footyclub-stub}} 9 and {{Estonia-sports-venue-stub}} (18)
{{Finland-sport-stub}} 57 Category:Finnish sport stubs Category:Finnish sportspeople stubs, Category:Finnish football club stubs (see below) and {{Finland-sports-venue-stub}} (46)
{{Germany-sport-stub}} 49 Category:German sport stubs {{Germany-basketball-team-stub}} (18), Category:German sportspeople stubs, Category:German football club stubs and Category:German sports venue stubs
{{Greece-sport-stub}} 57 Category:Greek sport stubs Category:Greek sportspeople stubs, Category:Greek football club stubs and Category:Greek sports venue stubs
{{Malaysia-sport-stub}} 36
{{Netherlands-sport-stub}} 42 Category:Dutch sport stubs Category:Dutch sportspeople stubs, {{Netherlands-footyclub-stub}} (32) and Category:Dutch sports venue stubs
{{Norway-sport-stub}} 36 Category:Norwegian sport stubs Category:Norwegian sports team stubs (see below), Category:Norwegian sportspeople stubs, Category:Norwegian football club stubs and Category:Norwegian sports venue stubs
{{Romania-sport-stub}} 53 Category:Romanian sport stubs Category:Romanian sportspeople stubs, Category:Romanian football club stubs and Category:Romanian sports venue stubs
{{Singapore-sport-stub}} 39
{{Spain-sport-stub}} 73 Category:Spanish sport stubs {{Spain-basketball-team-stub}} (22), Category:Spanish sportspeople stubs, Category:Spanish football club stubs and Category:Spanish sports venue stubs
{{Ukraine-sport-stub}} 41 Category:Ukrainian sport stubs Category:Ukrainian sportspeople stubs, Category:Ukrainian football club stubs and {{Ukraine-sports-venue-stub}} (49)
{{Venezeula-sport-stub}} 34

Some of the categories are a little small but they have the sub-cats to bulk the numbers. I would appreciate if someone could have a second check to see if I missed any obvious sub-cats/existing upmergeable templates.

The following are also now viable for de-upmerging.

SeveroTC 12:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Someones beaten me to my next big area to look at! I may be wrong as I haven't checked all the numbers but I think the upmerged templates can probably be turned into full categories once you add in those in the foo-sport-venue-stub template and the fooian sportspeople stubs categories. Iwouls say support all of the above and the extra categories following the pattern if they reach desired levels. Waacstats (talk) 16:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know if you looked at doing a British cat, but may be worth it, given that we have England and Scotland cats and the people, footyclubs and sports venues as stub cats. Waacstats (talk) 16:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
My proposal wasn't so comprehensive - I stumbled across this earlier when I tried {{Spain-sport-stub}} but it didn't work and just picked out national parent cats over 400-ish without sport cats. A British cat would work. SeveroTC 18:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Supporet - looks like a clear speedy to me. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Black metal album stubs//Template:black-metal-album-stub

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When handling Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/January/27#Premature Cat:2010s album stubs, I discocvered that all types of albums except this one have their own stub categories. There are 2 decade categories for this album type (Category:2000s black metal album stubs and Category:1990s black metal album stubs), and this list has around 200 other stubs for this category. Among others, it should pick up all the pages tagged with {{2010s-black-metal-album-stub}}. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks speediable to me. Waacstats (talk) 15:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{USSR-mil-ship-stub}} template

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There are quite a few Soviet ships in Category:Naval ship stubs, and the X-mil-ship-stub format is well established for 12 other nations (including Finland-!). Propose for speedy creation (S2). Would sort in Category:European naval ship stubs, most likely. -- The Bushranger One ping only 03:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support, even speedy based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Software-dev-stub}} template

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Upmerge template for Category:Software stubs. Some articles belonging in software development are misclassified in Category:Software engineering stubs, a more specific category, and I can't fix them now without losing specificity. (Main category is Category:Software development.) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

good idea, just not sure about whether to go with -dev- or -development- , dev could have other meanings. Waacstats (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support either suffix...perhaps "development" would be better. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Needs clarification. I'm a computer programmer, and I'm even having trouble working out the fine line between {{software-dev-stub}}, {{compu-prog-stub}}, and {{software-eng-stub}}. OK, maybe software engineering is more of the higher-level concepts. But where do we draw a line between computer programming and software development? Please define how this new template would be used, and how its use would be distinctly different than {{compu-prog-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Add {{programming-software-stub}} to the list of fairly similar categories. Although this one is specific to software used in programming. (But libraries are covered under {{compu-library-stub}}) Dawynn (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
The hierarchy is like this:
Examples:
In some individual cases the distinction may fall apart. Articles can go in more than one if it's really necessary. When specific subcategories are created, placement becomes more clear. I'm trying to fill out the bottom of the hierarchy so articles like Bus factor, Custom software development, and Point release can accurately be placed. They aren't part of software engineering. --Pnm (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{GUI-stub}} template

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Upmerge template for overpopulated Category:Software stubs. List of 25 articles ready to go. (Main category is Category:Graphical user interfaces.) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Support template, hopefully it will grow and cut down this long overpopulated category. Waacstats (talk) 16:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Needs clarification -- first consider how many of said articles would talk about a part of the user's Desktop Environment. Such articles could then be sorted into Category:Desktop environment stubs. Dawynn (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Category:Desktop environment stubs should be for articles related to desktop environments, which is software like the Windows shell, Aqua, GNOME, and KDE. It's a type of software, not a subtopic of graphical user interfaces. Articles like Adjustment handles, Affective design, Clickable, and Flip page are used in all kinds of software, so I'd put them in GUI stubs. Articles like At Ease and Desktop customization belong in Category:Desktop environment stubs. Articles like Active window and Dock (computing) about the user interface of desktop environments legitimately overlap, so I'd include both stub templates. --Pnm (talk) 00:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. Yes, after trying to sift the Category:Software stubs myself, I can definitely see a use for this template now. Dawynn (talk) 14:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{File-format-stub}} template

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Upmerge template for overpopulated Category:Computing stubs. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

another good idea for a template that will hopefully help to cut down its overpopulated parent. Waacstats (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Tentative support -- I would start by adding such articles to Category:Software type stubs. Although there may be some use in subcategorizing out the file formats, this category was where I was dumping file formats when I was sorting these guys in the past. Dawynn (talk) 15:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't mind if this is an upmerge template for Category:Software type stubs instead of Category:Computing stubs. However I don't feel quite right saying Archive file is "an article related to a type of software." The difference between software and a file format is obscure to some readers, and this inaccuracy would further confuse them. --Pnm (talk) 00:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Computer security stubs

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A large topic with a somewhat active WikiProject. Has a subcategory Category:Computer security software stubs and related category Category:Cryptography stubs. From a Cat Scan search I'd estimate at least 100 articles could immediately be placed here. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

fed by {{Computer-security-stub}} ? support. Waacstats (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Tunisian politician stubs

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I've been resorting a bunch - {{Tunisia-politician-stub}} is now ready for a category. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Asian hotel (structure) stubs

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Will pick up {{asia-hotel-struct-stub}}. 113 articles. Dawynn (talk) 14:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:44, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{NorthernIreland-castle-stub}}

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There are five articles currently placed in Category:United Kingdom castle stubs. Each of these is placed there via category tags, not stub templates, and each is a Northern Ireland castle. Please approve this template so that the articles can be properly tagged. Template is to be double-upmerged to Category:United Kingdom castle stubs and Category:Northern Ireland building and structure stubs. Dawynn (talk) 23:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Support template. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Support, logical S a g a C i t y (talk) 10:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Sculptor stubs

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Surprisingly, very few of these are broken down by country. Now, the category isn't exactly oversized yet, but I think it could still stand work. So here's what I suggest: creation of all the following that don't exist yet.

Category:French sculptor stubs, Category:Italian sculptor stubs, and Category:United Kingdom sculptor stubs all exist, as does Category:Serbian sculptor stubs. The latter only has seven articles, and can be happily dismantled, I think. That should pave the way for a general-use Category:European sculptor stubs. Howsabout that? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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Split of Category:Sigmurethra stubs

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Propose a split of this category down to the superfamily level. As before, these will only be parent categories. All tagging will remain at the family level.

Dawynn (talk) 14:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Canada-sculptor-stub}}

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Not enough for a full category, but it would help to break down Category:Canadian artist stubs. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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{{France-rail-station-stub}}

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A quick look at Category:French rail stubs indicates that the above could be useful. I haven't counted, but eyeballing suggests that Category:French rail station stubs would be viable as well. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. Please, use the template. There are quite a few of these French stations that are using a category tag instead of a template tag. Dawynn (talk) 14:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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Cycling stubs

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SeveroTC 21:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:European hotel (structure) stubs

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Asking that the following list of template be reviewed for potential use as upmerges to Category:European hotel (structure) stubs and appropriate national structure categories:

List of proposed templates

I may not use all of these, but all of these have a permanent category under parent Category:Hotels by country. Please review whether these templates names follow the current conventions for the listed European countries. Dawynn (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - as below, a cursory glance suggests that they're correct. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
FYI - I'd forgotten that this exists, if it's of any help. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:18, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you did to produce that list. Except for needing to create -struct- stubs, instead of -company- stubs, that's a helpful guide. Dawynn (talk) 16:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Comparing Blofeld's list to my own, Latvia, Poland, Portugal, and Ireland are all missing from the Blofeld list. Very peculiar. Dawynn (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I didn't create it - but as I recall it went through the wringer here a few months ago. Hotels aren't really my bag, not that much. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Dr. B also seems to use "HK" rather than "HongKong" - HK is usually only for redirects. Grutness...wha? 21:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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Next set of television stubs

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SeveroTC 16:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. The New Zealand one's been on my "to propose" list for a while. Grutness...wha? 22:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Individual state hotel template requests

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List of proposed templates

Asking general permission to create *-hotel-struct-stub templates for all 50 states and Washington DC, as needed. This will allow for appropriate upmerging to both the previously requested US hotel structure category, as well as individual state building and structure categories. Please review the names listed for proper naming conventions. Dawynn (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all - a cursory glance indicates that they're all present and correct. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Hotels in the United Kingdom stubs

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Request for speedy creation. Will pick up template {{UK-hotel-struct-stub}}. 84 articles. Perm cat: Category:Hotels in the United Kingdom. Dawynn (talk) 14:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Follow-up: Since we have enough in the UK alone, and I haven't even begun to search through the rest of Europe, I'd like to suggest a new parent category for the UK subcategory: Category:European hotel (structure) stubs, picking up the previously approved {{Europe-hotel-struct-stub}}. This will in turn be a subcategory to the existing Category:Hotel (structure) stubs. Dawynn (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support both. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Hotels in the United States stubs

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Speedy request. Will pick up {{US-hotel-struct-stub}} with 125 articles. Perm Cat: Category:Hotels in the United States. Dawynn (talk) 10:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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A few more nudges

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Another group of sport templates nudged above 60

any objections to speeding these. Waacstats (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks like the Norwegian handball players aren't feeding right do scrap that one. Waacstats (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - none at all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Ukrainian wintersports biography stubs

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along with the figure skater cat above this should be viable with the following two templates {{Ukraine-wintersport-bio-stub}} and {{Ukraine-icehockey-bio-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. "wintersports" or "winter sports"? Grutness...wha? 22:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I spotted that as I was creating it, it should of course have been Category:Ukrainian winter sports biography stubs. Waacstats (talk) 16:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:North American hotel (structure) stubs

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Haven't even looked at the US hotels, and already there are 74 articles using {{NorthAm-hotel-struct-stub}}. Several of these should really have a new tag: {{Canada-hotel-struct-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:United Kingdom building and structure stubs

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Have manged to spot / nudge 7 templates over the 60 mark so the following are speediable

any objections. Waacstats (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Just adding 4 more

Waacstats (talk) 12:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Another 5

I knew I should have done these systematically because I keep loosing track of which counties I have already nominated, once these have cleared I'll go back and see what we have left. Waacstats (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all - no objections here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Swedish sport shooting biography stubs

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{{Sweden-sportshooting-bio-stub}} should be able to take over 60 articles according to catscan. Waacstats (talk)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Spanish tennis biography stubs

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{{Spain-tennis-bio-stub}} has been nudged above 60, any objections to a speedy. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Italian Olympic medalist stubs

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the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

I don't know what it is with these two sports but I am trying to match other sports but not getting anywhere off current stubs at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. You'll find a lot of rowing stubs - there seems to be some kind of project working specifically on them, right now. Fencing, as I recall from newpage patrol, has been largely the work of one person. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
En Garde! Replace largely with completly. Lugnuts (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Mexican painter stubs

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{{Mexico-painter-stub}} is in use on somewhere over 60 articles - time to speedy this? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Waacstats (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:French Olympic medalist stubs

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the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

Waacstats (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:American sports announcer stubs

Catscan suggests over 250 articles that could fit in here and use {{US-sport-announcer-stub}} not sure what parents it should have though. Waacstats (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Does announcer=commentator? Grutness...wha? 22:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I believe so. Waacstats (talk) 23:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - good idea. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:American Olympic medalist stubs

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the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

I'm not sure that the first one is correctly named but it is as good as I can come up with at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:European fencing biography stubs

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two templates have past the 60 mark

any objections to speedying the categories. Waacstats (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - I don't gots a problem with it. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Weightlifting biography stubs

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Above is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Sport wrestler stubs

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As above so below. This is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Soviet Winter Olympic medalist stubs

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along with {{USSR-Winter-Olympic-medalist-stub}} should easily pass 100 never mind 60. Waacstats (talk) 18:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Association football biography stubs

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some subcategories are getting close to where we normally split them so I suggest the following templates with categories iff we get to 60 articles

I imagine the goalkeepers won't get to 60 in most cases but the defenders and midfielders should do quite easily. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Support with caveat - recent discussions at SFD suggest that "forward" is a more appropriate term than "striker'. Perhaps we'd better work that out before rushing into making those ones... Grutness...wha? 22:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Ice hockey biography stubs

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Both Category:Swedish ice hockey biography stubs and Category:Russian ice hockey biography stubs are large so I propose splitting based on the American and Canadians

Catgories iff we get to 60. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:American baseball catcher stubs

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The following templates have passed 60 and so I propose the following categories

Any objections. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:African football biography stubs

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The following templates have passed 60 and so I propose the following categories

Any objections. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:American screen actor, 1990s birth stubs

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The {{US-screen-actor-1990s-stub}} has more than 60 articles so any objections to speeding the above category. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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German and French Actors

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Both Category:French actor stubs and Category:German actor stubs are heading towards the oversized list so I propose the following

Categories iff we have 60+ articles. Waacstats (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Women-hist-stub

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Propose creating {{Women-hist-stub}} and Category:Women's history stubs as a sub-category of Category:History stubs. Some items might additionally be marked with bio-stub.

This is a stub needed for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, which has identified 580 articles so far at WP:WMNHIST#Relevant_entries. ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic) 17:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

This might be better as a wikiproject talkpage template especially as bios aren't normally marked with a {{hist-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Would it be more appropriate to split this into two stubs templates and related categories: {{women-bio-stub}} and Category:Women's biography stubs for biographical items, and {{women-hist-stub}} and Category:Women's history stubs for events, groups, laws, etc? If so, do I need to file a separate proposal for the biographical stubs? ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic | talk | contribs) 18:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure - we don't ordinarily create biographical stubs by gender alone. What sort of biographical items are you talking about? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Several comments -

  1. since we already have {{fem-stub}} for articles relating to feminism, perhaps {{fem-history-stub}} would be better? I realise the two topics are not identical, but there would be considerable overlap.
  2. we've largely moved to using "history" rather than "hist", though hist would still be suitable for a redirect.
  3. I'm not really in favour of a separate woman-bio-stub using that name, since it's likely that many editors will misiterpret it to mean "biographies of women". A {{fem-bio-stub}}, for people associated with feminist studies or historically with women's causes would be approriate, though. Grutness...wha? 23:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what the procedure is here, but just noting that I'd like to see this stub be created. It would be good to be able to identify articles about female historical figures, whether bios or not, that need to be expanded. They won't all be connected to feminism; in fact, most won't be.
The idea for the Wikiproject Women's History arose out of the recent efforts to increase women's participation and visibility on Wikipedia, so it would help to have a stub tag to encourage article creation and expansion. SlimVirgin TALK|CONTRIBS 07:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm just concerned that some editors might assume {{women-bio-stub}} would be used for all biographical articles about women. There'd have to be pretty stringent wording of both the template and category, and regular checks (similar to the way that WP:Judaism try to make sure that Jewish-bio-stub is used for people notable for their connection to Judaism rather than simply people who follow the Jewish faith). Grutness...wha? 21:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Reiterating request. This proposal was made in the early days of the Women's History project, and some of these issues have been discussed there. One of our obstacles at first was the tendency for eager editors to plaster every bio of a woman with the WH project banner, including BLPs of pop stars. We now have criteria to control that. The stub template, of course, is different, since it's independent of the project per se, while useful to it. The stub template in my view is not meant for biographies, but to facilitate the development of topics within women's history. Several needed articles have been mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's History that could be begun as stubs. I ended up here today because I needed a stub template for Movement for the Ordination of Women that placed it within the field of women's history as well as Anglican church history. I'd like to start a stub for Ladies' aid societies, for instance. That said, there are a number of historically significant but lesser known women who are notable enough for articles, and whose articles might benefit from a debut as a stub that marks the topic as of interest to women's history. So I don't know what to do about that. But I would like to see a Women's History stub template become available. Cynwolfe (talk) 19:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I think that the original requested wording was correct with the change to expanding hist to history. {{Women-history-stub}} and Category:Women's history stubs as a sub-category of Category:History stubs. Category:History stubs would be the top level category for these articles the same way that it is the top level category for stubs about Military history (which also contains biographies.) I would like to see this happen soon since the Women's History Project is working on locating existing articles and doing assessments. FloNight♥♥♥♥ 19:55, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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Life-peer-stub

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Propose creating {{Life-peer-stub}}, and Category:Life peer stubs as a sub-category of Category:Life peers and Category:Peerage of the United Kingdom baron stubs.

This stub type would currently include 398 articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support looks good to me. Waacstats (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Comment That's a bad sign for our general coverage. Life peers should be notable when created, and 398 is a significant proportion of them. But I suppose we need the cat. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, a lot more work is needed to expand the articles. But having a stub category will help us to locate the articles which are in need of expansion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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More hotel requests

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I've thought a bit more about this, and would like to make a few more hotel-related requests.

  1. {{US-hotel-struct-stub}}. They had their own company article, I'm guessing a good many were really structures.
  2. {{UK-hotel-struct-stub}}. I remember personally tagging several building articles from London and other parts of the UK.
  3. {{hotel-struct-stub}}. I thought this was unnecessary, but then I found this article: Space Islands
  4. {{SouthAm-hotel-company-stub}}. Missing from the company collection.
  5. {{NorthAm-hotel-company-stub}}. Because the US is not the only country in North America.

Dawynn (talk) 11:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support...you mean we're not? EVERYTHING I KNOW IS WRONG! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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post Category:Colombia geography stubs tidy up

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The following two templates aare oversized and could do with the matching categories.

any objections to speedy. Waacstats (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Differentiation for hotels

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After sifting through the various Category:Hotel company stubs and the associated subcategories, I would like to suggest new templates and potential category. Notice that the existing templates and categories all carry company in the name. However, a quick perusal of the categories shows that this is abused, which a large share of the articles talking only about one particular structure.

While companies may be international, structures are specific to a particular location. So, I don't see up front a need for a general-level hotel structure template. I would like to suggest the following:

I would guess that there would be enough to create a category, so I will go ahead and request Category:Hotel (structure) stubs. Additional categories will be requested as the need arises. Main category here is Category:Hotels.

Template and category descriptions and categorizations will all be updated to reflect this differentiation. Unfortunately, this may undersize the recently created Category:Asian hotel company stubs and Category:European hotel company stubs. That can be dealt with as the need arises. Dawynn (talk) 16:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Support. I noticed this problem while looking at the proposal for continental categories below. Makes good sense. Grutness...wha? 00:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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One more round of Category:Heterobranchia stubs templates

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I have now looked at each of the articles remaining under {{Heterobranchia-stub}}. These are the rest of the families with at least 4 articles.

This will pull roughly half of the family / genus / species articles out of {{Heterobranchia-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 14:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Hotel company stubs

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Proposing two continental splits of this category:

Please note that I have not finished diffusing {{hotel-company-stub}}, but have seen at least three articles for European hotels that are not supported yet by individual country templates. Dawynn (talk) 17:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:11, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Support, though i must say i'm surprised we have separate UK, Wales and England stubs (but no Scotland), when there aren't enough from the UK as a whole for a separate category! Grutness...wha? 22:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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Television stubs

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Following sorting, the following are now speediably viable:

SeveroTC 11:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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{{Kiama-geo-stub}}

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According to this article, there are five local government areas in the Illawarra region of New South Wales. There are templates for four of these in Category:Illawarra region geography stubs. Asking for this template to complete the set. Dawynn (talk) 13:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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Flag stubs

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Not yet overloaded (approaching 500 stubs), but there's significant undersorting, with flags simply being marked with a country-stub but not flag-stub. The following upmerged templates may prove useful:

Also, though we're steering away from continent-wide templates, splitting flags by continent may be a useful first step - so continent/region templates may be useful for the following:

The top three of them should reach the 60-stub threshold for separate categories, too. Grutness...wha? 23:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - for something like flags (where there are significantly fewer articles than there are about biographical subgroups) I think continent-wide templates aren't a bad idea. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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New templates for Category:Opera singer stubs

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Suggest the following upmerge templates.

Except for New Zealand, these can help fill the proposed Category:European opera singer stubs. These will also eat up about a third of the articles currently tagged by {{opera-singer-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 19:52, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Just one question -- do we typically use NZ or NewZealand in stub template names? Dawynn (talk) 17:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
NewZealand. We used to use NZ, and there are still a lot of redirects of this form (one here wouldn't be a bad idea either). Grutness...wha? 22:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Araneidae stubs

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Speedy request for this new category to pick up {{Araneidae-stub}} (68 articles). Dawynn (talk) 15:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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More templates for Category:Heterobranchia stubs

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Here are the templates for over 100 more articles:

Between this and the previous proposals, Category:Heterobranchia stubs should be down around 400 articles. Dawynn (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Polish heraldry stubs

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{{Poland-heraldry-stub}} has over 150 articles and Category:Poland stubs is oversized so this will kill 2 birds with one stone. Waacstats (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to propose this one when I put the template to such extensive use. My bad. SeveroTC
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Category:Sacoglossa stubs

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New parent-only category to be a subcategory to Category:Panpulmonata stubs. Main article: Sacoglossa. Will pick up the following templates:

So, a total of 70 articles. Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - parent away. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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Templates for Category:Heterobranchia stubs

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The following new family-level templates will pull over 200 articles out of template {{Heterobranchia-stub}}. For many of these, this will also allow these articles to upmerge into the lower level parent-only subcategories.

Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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Category:European opera singer stubs

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With several potewntial upmerge stub tags we certainly have more than 60 for this category (looking at the first 3 European entries on this list, I already reached 60), so I think that we should have this. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Support Dawynn (talk)
Bravo, bravo, in verità! (That's a support, that is.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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