Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Archive12

Newly discovered, October 2005

{{Argentina-sport-stub}} / Category:Argentina sport stubs (on SFD)

A country-specific sport stub, which is an interesting idea. Created yesterday, has 13 articles. Category lacks parents. --Mairi 06:23, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting does not necessarily equal good... Given that we're busily breaking out separate sports, I'm not overly taken with this one... Grutness...wha? 11:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added to SFD. --TheParanoidOne 23:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Currently used on 61 articles Valentinian ^(talk) 21:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finally rescoped on third SFD to {{Argentina-sport-bio-stub}}. Caerwine Caerwhine 13:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Video game company stubs

User:A Link to the Past decided that we needed to also have stub categories video game manufacturers, and to populate them:

Since we're dividing by genre too, these probably ought to be deleted, but I haven't been following the cvg-stub splits closely. Also, so far none have over 60, and only the last is over 50. --Mairi 01:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the genre stubs then. Deleting these makes the problem oh-so-obvious on the CVG stub cat. There is no real problem with these stubs in regard to size, as there has only been a single person (me) working on them, and for only one single day. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps if you'd discussed these with WP:WSS, some better way of splitting would have been possible. As it is, though, these run against the way these stub categories are organised. As such, if any should be deleted, it is these. And if that make a problem in the main category "oh so obvious", then suggest a better way it can be improved that keeps to the hierarchy. Grutness...wha? 01:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For one, strategy games is applied to many non-strategy game. Are you telling me that it is easier to apply an article with a genre stub than a company stub? - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If an article has the wrong template, fix it. If you think the category system is in need of improving, suggest something on WP:WSS/P. The current genre stubs were decided on after a fairly lengthy discussion there, which considered several different schemes. --Mairi 02:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure what you mean by "is it easier to apply an article" - it is definitely easier for editors to find a particular type of article by genre than by company, though. Editors are more likely to know about different strategy games across company than about the games from one company irrespective of genre, and stuub splitting is done for the benefit of editors. Grutness...wha? 02:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So, what you are telling me is that you can properly attribute a genre stub to Katamari Damacy? - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox there manages to; based on that it'd go in {{action-cvg-stub}} if it were a stub. --Mairi 03:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's hardly fact. What makes it adventure? But *drumroll* unless the game never had a company listed on who developed it anywhere on Earth, if it's a Namco game, Namco-stub is JUST that simple. There WILL be debate over if a game is adventure, puzzle, strategy, etc. But how do you claim that it is not a Namco game? - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The issue isn't only ease-of-classification (any classification scheme is bound to have difficult cases), it's also whether that classification scheme is useful to people expanding articles. If you think classifying by developer is useful, go start a discussion on WP:WSS/P about it. I doubt you'll find much support, given that we have an existing classification method, but you can give it a try there. --Mairi 03:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This attracts fans of the company. More Namco fans would come about to Namco-stub than action fans to the action-stub. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You know, it's odd, but I know lots of video game fans, and they're all fans of particular games and game genres, rather than of particular companies. Grutness...wha? 13:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I REALLY doubt people will go after games that are specified by very loose categories. What makes a game strategy? Isn't action just a copout genre when they can't find a better genre? - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I like playing strategy games. I dont care who their by, and I wouldnt be able to tell you either. If I was looking for stubs on games then Id definately look by type of game rather than company first. BL Lacertae 23:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and added these to the stub list. No one bothered taking them to SFD and they are all above size (barely) and the CVG project seems to want them. Caerwine Caerwhine 13:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bunch of redirects

{{Britcartoonist-bio-stub}} -> {{Comics-creator-stub}}
{{Bih-geo-stub}} -> {{BiH-geo-stub}}
{{AFLstub}} -> {{Afl-stub}}
{{Education stub}} -> {{Edu-stub}}
{{Government-stub}} -> {{gov-stub}}
{{author-stub}} -> {{writer-stub}}

Don't have much of an opinion on them, other than they don't seem to be particularly useful... --Mairi 23:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Britcartoonist was the original name of the comics one, ISTR, but has possibly done its time. Of the others, the only one that seems worth keeping is government-stub. Three of the other four are badly named (mind you, so are BiH-stub and Afl-stub), and the fourth is redundant. Grutness...wha? 23:50, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely enough, I think {{author-stub}} might be worth keeping. We have a bunch of near synonyms for {{writer-stub}} that we are already keeping, and might just want to add more, such as {{lyricist-stub}}. I'm being a tad sarcastisic here, but not much since I wouldn't call a lyricist an author or vice versa.

You should vote on sfd then. Mairis taken it there to be voted on BL kiss the lizard 05:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Mairi only submitted Category:Author stubs to an SfD. The template that used to feed into that, {{author-stub}}, was turned into a redirect to {{writer-stub}}, just like {{poet-stub}} and {{playwright-stub}}. Caerwine 19:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

AFLstub, Bih-geo-stub, Britcartoonist-bio-stub deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 22:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's stub-berg season again...

I've just gone through Allpages/templates, searching for the word "stub". You may need to sit down. I discovered some 225 templates that were either unknown here or were badly formed and in need of work. Understandably, I haven't had time to check them all, so what I've done is list them on a subpage of my user page (User:Grutness/Stub discoveries to vet). What I'd suggest is that I (and hopefully some others) can take a handful, check them out, and then bring them either here or to SFD, which ever seems most appropriate. That way it saves dumping 100 more kb of length onto this page in one go. Some of them are no doubt ones that are OK and passed either here or at WSS/P without me remembering. others are just too strange for me to think that that can be true. Some are simply old redirects which should be taken to SFD. They range from the boring and plausible ({{China-road-stub}}, for instance) to the eccentric (like {{Search-engine-optimization-stub}} and {{Stub need image}}). Anyway, it looks like we've got a bit more work to do... Sigh. Grutness...wha? 08:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Newly discovered, November 2005

{{Agri-stub}} redirects

All created today:

Agriculture-stub is definitely useful; Ag-stub is definitely ambiguous and going to sfd; the others i'm various degress of ambivalent about. --Mairi 05:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think "farms-" should join it at SFD, at least. Alai 06:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I think "ag-" is woth keeping myself, but I agree with Alai that "farms-" should probabluy go. Caerwine 23:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Have added the well used agriculture-stub to the list of stub redirects and sent the other four to SFD for final disposition. Caerwine Caerwhine 20:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Farms-stub deleted, the other three logged as no consensus and added to the redirect list. Caerwine Caerwhine 14:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Newly discovered, December 2005

{{Canada-artist-stub}} / Category:Canadian artist stubs

Created today, used on 6 articles. As far as I know, we don't have any other nationality artist stubs, but {{Canada-bio-stub}} is at 10 pages, so this might help relieve that. --Mairi 22:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Artist stubs is also growing - this might be a reasonable way to split it, although by style or era is also a possibility. Grutness...wha? 00:14, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

We're now at the end of December, and after a month there are only 10 articles in this category. I can see breaking up the painters geographically (though I don't know how many Canadian painters we'd find), but we've so far broken down artists by medium first, not by geography. I think this could be a candidate for deletion --EncycloPetey 16:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's now June and it has 50 entries plus there are pver 1400 unsorted Canadian biographies that should have some artists among them. I'm adding this one to the stub list. Caerwine Caerwhine 20:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Disney-comics-stub}} / Category:Disney Comics stubs

Created on the 12th of December, one article. Comics stubs probably need another split, even if "what into" isn't immediately obvious, but I doubt this is it. - SoM 11:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added to stub list after a visit to SFD in April 2006. Caerwine Caerwhine 02:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{RnB-album-stub}} / Category:R&B album stubs

Perhaps useful, but the category shouldn't have an abbreviation, and I'm not sure why the template isn't {{R&B-album-stub}}. --Mairi 08:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

probably for the same reason as with the "RnB-band-stub" listed a couple of sections further up the page. I must admit I didn't know that ampersands could be used (it would have been useful for things like Trinidad-geo-stub! This one will probably be useful, but a rename would definitely be useful. Grutness...wha? 09:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ended up being renamed as suggested. Caerwine Caerwhine 14:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{India-writer-stub}} / Category:Indian writer stubs

Used on 15 articles; might be useful too. --Mairi 05:16, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And will no doubt suffer from the same problem as other Indian biography categories of claiming for India alone historical people of South Asia despite having no clear indication in the article of the where they lived. 5 of the 15 articles needed to restubbed to {{SAsia-writer-stub}} because of that. South Asian writer stubs is at 135 stubs at present, so it's hardly overful. Besides with several large language communities stradlng the partion line, South Asian writers might be a case where instead of splitting by state, we would want to split by language. (i.e Bangla-writer-stub, Urdu-writer-stub, etc.) Caerwine Caerwhine 14:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This is now up to 53 stubs, and a quick exam of some of them indicates that they truly are of Indians and not just South Asians, still not convinced we need a separate stub, as even combined with South Asia writer stubs there are only a few over 200 stubs, but we have a strong bias to nation based splits, so I'll go ahead and add this to the stub list. Caerwine Caerwhine 23:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{US-mil-hist-stub}} & Category:United States military history stubs with redirects {{US-military-hist-stub}} & {{US-Mil-hist-stub}}

The irregular redirect {{US-Mil-hist-stub}} definitely needs to go and I'm not fond of the other redirect but could live with it. Used on one stub and five stub categories. Adding the stub categories of the five indivual war stubs that relate to US seem to me to be wrong, but consistent with how the non-stub categories are arranged, so I won't dispute that if this ends up being kept. However, I'm doubtful of the need or desireability of this stub. None of Category:United States military stubs, Category:United States history stubs, or Category:Military history stubs is overfull. Not ill-formed tho, so until the SFD backlog gets resolved, I'll refain from sending this to the breakers, but I will be sending the malformed redirect. 22:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Now that this category and its parents are of considerable size, I'm listing it. Conscious 06:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

US-Milhist-stub was sent to SFD and deleted back in December; US-military-hist-stub added to list of redirects today. Caerwine Caerwhine 17:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Astrologer-stub}} / Category:Astrologer stubs

Created today, used on 7 articles. Not sure it'd get that much use, although I'm even less sure what'd be a better place to put such articles. --Mairi 06:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 12:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Tvseries-stub}} / Category:Television series stubs

Formerly a redirect to {{tv-stub}}. That category now has 70 articles. While {{tv-stub}} needs some rethinking, i'm not sure this is how we want to do it. Maybe keep {{tv-stub}} as a parent, and have as children: {{tv-channel-stub}} (or just children-by-nation), {{tv-bio-stub}}, {{tv-char-stub}}, and {{tv-show-stub}} (or {{tv-prog-stub}} for tv channels, shows, programmes, etc? --Mairi 06:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This situation has grown out of control. {{tv-stub}} is now 10 pages long, {{tvseries-stub}} is already 5 pages long. We need to deal with this one fast. Or rather the entire group of TV stubs, which is fast growing. The official list doesn't even properly reflect the current categorization it seems, and most templates and Categories don't has stub project templates on them. WP:TV has been revived, so i think the time is now to tackle the complex issue of these stubs. - The DJ 20:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected to {{tv-prog-stub}} in May. Caerwine Caerwhine 17:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Whedchar-stub}} / Category:Buffyverse Character stubs

Created today, used on 18 articles. There is a Buffyverse wikiproject, so it might get enough use, but both the template and category could use better names. --Mairi 06:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted via WP:SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 05:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another one related to the split of {{France-geo-stub}} (see {{Lorraine-geo-stub}} discussion above). There's only 24 stubs in there right now, but in mid-October I counted 68 stubs that would be appropriate. This was going to be created soon anyway, so it's a keeper in my opinion. Mindmatrix 17:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's also now:

{{Auvergne-geo-stub}} (20 articles)
{{Picardie-geo-stub}} (10 articles)
{{Bourgogne-geo-stub}} (15 articles)
{{Bretagne-geo-stub}} (16 articles)

Mairi 05:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And now {{Alsace-geo-stub}}, with 31 articles. --Mairi 05:56, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Aquitaine-geo-stub}} is at 70, I'm adding it to WP:WSS/ST. Conscious 19:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Film-genre-stub}} / Category:Film Genre stubs

Created today, used on 20 articles. Category:Film genres isn't that large, so I'm not sure this'd get much use. Category needs the capitalization fixed if it's kept --Mairi 05:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See discussion at Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/Deleted/February_2006#.7B.7BFilm-genre-stub.7D.7D_.2F_Cat:Film_Genre_stubs ; the stub and cat were renamed in lowercase and now hold 52 articles. Her Pegship 19:35, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Afl-bio-stub}} / Category:Australian rules football player stubs

Created today, used 12 times. Problems: the category ought to be Category:Australian rules football biography stubs to include coaches and such; ought to be capitalized as {{AFL-bio-stub}}; AFL refers to plenty of other things that could have biographies, such as the American Football Leage, the Arena Football League, etc. Not sure this is worth keeping, especially when it's parent stub category has only slightly more than 300 articles. --Mairi 05:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

if kept it would actually be AFLbio-stub rather than AFL-bio-stub, as per tennisbio-stub etc (although this is one we'd be unlikely to need to split later by nationality!) Grutness...wha? 01:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrectly named, feeds into Category:Xenosaga. If kept, should probably renamed to {{Xenosaga-stub}} and be edited to feed into Category:Xenosaga stubs. Aecis ^praatpaal 00:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

if it's needed (which I'd be unsure of, to say the least) a name change is necessary. I saw the name and though "surely there aren't 60 stubs on extraterrestrials!" Grutness...wha? 01:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 20:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Iowa-hwy-stub}} / Category:Iowa road stubs

Created today, used on 4 articles. The category lacks any parents, and the template ought to be renamed to {{Iowa-road-stub}}. --Mairi 05:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template moved to {{Iowa-State-Highway-stub}}. Category SFDed for renaming. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:34, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{India-website-stub}} / Category:India website stubs

Created today, used on 2 articles. I can't find any corresponding/related main category(s) and I'm skeptical that this'll get much use. --Mairi 08:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 22:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Switzerland-footybio-stub}}, {{Romania-footybio-stub}}

Created today, ~20 stubs each. Conscious 19:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well over 60 each now, added to stub list some time ago. Caerwine Caerwhine 20:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Maratha-stub}} / Category:Maratha Empire stubs

User:AMbroodEY recently created this stub template/category, which seems to have happened out of process. There are currently 5 articles using the template, and the category hasn't been categorized, so it shows as a red link. Aecis ^{Mr. Mojo risin'} 17:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I say make it a redirect with possibilities to {{SAsia-stub}} until such time as 60 stubs relating to the Maratha Empire can be shown. While we do have stub types for historical states, they have been mainly for entities that cut across our usual boundaries with ruthless abandon such as the Ottoman Empire which would otherwise require three separate stubs. With a clear parent stub in this case and so many historical countries, there is zero reason to not ruthlessly enforce the usual 60 stub rule here. Caerwine Caerwhine 21:27, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say delete it and replace it with the planned and now surely overdue India-hist-stub or SAsia-hist-stub. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals#Princely India Stub. Grutness...wha? 23:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well sorry fellas for not looking at the rule more closely. I though a category had to have 60 articles to warrant a unique stub template. BTW OT i think theres a good chance that we have more than 60 Maratha Empire related stub. Well Caerwine Maratha Empire spanned almost entire whole subcontinent, which i daresay is a huge area. अमेय आरयन AMbroodEY 18:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maratha-stub made to feed into India-hist-stub via SFD. As for huge area, it's not just the size, its also what it cuts across. The Maratha Empire remained confined to the Indian subcontinent. The Ottoman Empire cut across three different continents. Caerwine Caerwhine 20:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Progressive-rock-album-stub}} / Category:Progressive rock album stubs

Created yesterday, then template blanked. Would prefer to rename this to "Metal album stubs", as metal albums are one of the largest types remaining in Category:Album stubs without a home. Though Category:Rock album stubs is going to be the largest subcategory by far, so it doesn't hurt much to break that one out further. --Interiot 16:56, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This prog stub was also proposed yesterday. Looks like someone made it then realised they should propose it first. Can't see it doing much harm considering how big album-stubs is. As for metal-album stubs, that should certainly exist. Grutness...wha? 22:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

State level subtypes of certain US stub types

Ultimate decision on these was that state level subtypes of {{US-stub}}, {{US-geo-stub}}, and {{US-school-stub}} wouold keep the templates, with them either pointing to a parent stub cat or a state-level stub cat depending on the number of stubs. Caerwine Caerwhine 18:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Colorado-stub}} / Category:Colorado stubs

Created 2005-06-02; used on about 20 articles. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 13:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

More than half are geo-stubs that need to be sorted out. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 13:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

US geo stubs

Both unused and created today:

({{Montana-geo-stub}} was also created by the same user, but it's been proposed by Grutness) --Mairi 05:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Florida-stub}} / Category:Florida stubs

Created today, unused. Category lacks any parents. Same issues as all state stubs. --Mairi 05:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

US-school-stubs

User:R6MaY89 has created the following:

Category:US school stubs certainly needed subdividing with over 1,000 articles. Category:California school stubs now has 78 articles and is sure to grow much larger. On User:R6MaY89's user page is the stated goal to create a school stub for all 50 US states. ^Blank ^Verse 09:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

please have a word with him about it and about the way this project functions! If there are as many articles on schools in Delaware as on places in Delaware, it'll never get near threshold, to start with. BTW, I take it that Florida-school-stub doesn't feed into the Delaware stub category! In any case, 1000 schools = an average of only 20 per state, so some of these will definitely not get to threshold. Grutness...wha? 10:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am really of two minds on this issue. Yes, many of the US-state-school categories will be currently underpopulated. On the other hand, the contentious and obstreperous actions of WP:SCHOOL have insured that there is no effective minimum standard for school articles on the Wikipedia, and their goal seems to be to have absolutely every school documented on the Wikipedia. That means that eventually all of those categories will be way over-populated and will then need further subdividing (by region or county). So do we stick with only those categories that currently meet WP:WSS creation guidelines, or do we prepare for the unavoidable future.

Be aware that crappy little sub-stubs on US schools are being aggressively created. Category:US school stubs had less than 600 articles in it at the last survey noted at WP:WSS/ST ("<600 as at October 4"). The over 1,000 figure was after many US-school stubs had already been moved to the new subcategories, so the number of US school stubs had more than doubled in less than two months! Very conservatively assuming a linear rather than exponential growth rate means that there will be at least 8,400 US school stubs by the end of 2006. ^Blank ^Verse 01:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, perhaps it does make sense to keep them all. Sigh... that WSS/ST page is getting very long. I foresee a point when we have to use a grid:

Alabama -stub; -geo-stub; -bio-stub; -school-stub; -State-Highway-stub
Alaska -stub; -geo-stub; -bio-stub; -school-stub; -State-Highway-stub
etc.

Grutness...wha? 02:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well the page weighs in at 190k code/490k real, so maybe a refactoring is in order ... --TheParanoidOne 11:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, BlankVerse for sending me a link to this page. I think that it is essential that we have all 50 states stubs and I believe that within a week or two, none of them will classify as "underpopulated". The truth is that we have so many schools in Category:US school stubs. Pepsidrinka and I started moving schools into the subcats only yesterday (Dec 26) and, with the help of other Wikipedians, we have finished more than half of the schools that were under A, B, and C. I haven't actually looked through all of them, but I estimate more than 100 Delaware schools only in the Delaware subcat when we are finished and I do not believe that this is to few to deserve a stub category. Perhaps we could all hold off on this discussion for a few days, and if there really are too few for some state's subcats, we can move them back to the US school category (this should be easy if there are really that few of them). Thanks for bringing this topic up for discussion. --R6MaY89 13:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think all of them should be kept, (1) "to prepare for the inevitable future", (2) because it makes sorting so much easier, and (3) because you can then use one line on the WP:WSS/ST page saying "all US states have their own stub type" instead of listing them individually. Kappa 04:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks like there are a large number of very short school articles that do not have any stub templates at the moment. I went through the List of school districts in Los Angeles County, California, finding that most of the existing school district articles were little more than lists of schools, so I gave them the new {{california-school-stub}}. I then looked at each of the high schools in the school district articles, and roughly a quarter of them were stubby articles that didn't have any stub template. Especially once the untagged US school articles are all discovered and properly tagged with state school stubs, even tiny Rhode Island may have a few dozen already created school articles. ^Blank ^Verse 08:45, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've finished moving all of the schools from A-F in states with names A-M to their new stub locations. If anyone is reading this, can you help move some articles? There is still plenty of work to be done. Over the next few days, I think we should go ahead and create the remaining 25 stub cats. Is this okay? Then we will be able to move everything else. --R6MaY89 03:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of the moving is over (only 250 schools remain to be moved), but I could really use your help finishing it up (it goes quickly if you use WP:AWB). How do you feel about a Washington D.C. stub? There will probably only be about 10 schools in it for now, but it may provide more completeness to the project. If you think that it should be created, what is the correct format? Is it Washington_D.C.-school-stubs or is there another way to write it? --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 21:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stub sorting is finished. We reduced it to 29 articles in the category that do not go under any one of the states. Some stretch over state boundaries and others are centered in D.C.. I guess this project is over for now. Thanks to everyone who helped out! --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 14:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Iowa school stubs" category deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 06:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Alabama school stubs", "Arkansas school stubs", "Kentucky school stubs" and "Louisiana school stubs" categories deleted via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 05:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

State geography stubs

User:Geoset, who was responsible for three new USstate-geo-stubs recently, has just ben blocked for 24 hours. The reason?

What's more, Category:Washington, D.C. geography stubs feeds into the previously unknown Category:Washington, D.C. stubs, which uses {{DC-stub}}, which I would have expected to be about comics. it's the only one of the ones above that has a properly formed category - the others have no information and no parentage. At least we now have something to redirect karmafist's horrible "District Of Columbia-stub" to... I give up. By the way, you may be interested to know that several of the new geo-stub templates will have less than ten stubs.

Someone else can take over from here as far as US geo-stubs are concerned. If the lunatics want to take over the asylum, let them. I've no time for that any more. I'll keep sorting the country-specific stubs, but I'm having no further part of any US geo-stubs whatsoever. it's a complete waste of time. No matter how you try to create a sensible, working system, someone else will come along and kick it over. Grutness...wha? 06:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ive fixed up iowa. took about five minutes to move all 25 of its stubs. pathetic. if it doesnt grow its a waste of space. it is always the us states that are a problem. state-school-stubs, state-politician-stubs, state-Highway-Stubs and now this. everyone else is willing to wait. i dont get it. nebraska next. that has 18 stubs acording to your last count. whee! BL kiss the lizard 08:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ive fixed up all of the cats but the district of columbia one says washington dc which isnt quite the same thing. i think itll need to be changed. BL kiss the lizard 08:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In order to keep with the stub template naming conventions and avoid ambiguity, we need the DC one to be {{WashingtonDC-geo-stub}}. There have been at least two attempts on CFD to get the DC categories to settle on either Washington, D.C. or District of Columbia which both ended with agreement that a merge was desirable, but no consensus on which should be annointed, so with the stub template name, the stub category name making sense. Caerwine Caerwhine 01:32, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- in that case {{DC-stub}} needs changeing. BL kiss the lizard 01:46, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! I'll go through the new categories, too, when I get a chance to check for consistency and such. I presume some of the regional US geo stub categories are near empty now. What should become of them? I would think they could be deleted as they were just an intermediate split of the mammoth US-geo-stub category a while back. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 22:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ive gone thru almost all of them - there are just a few left in the south regional category. almost all the regional categories are almost empty now - one of thems on sfd. as for the size of the new states, have a look at Category:Delaware geography stubs which has all the stubs i could find from delaware in it! BL kiss the lizard 00:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Alaska-stub}} / Category:Alaska stubs

Created today, used only once, looks well formated. But there is a wikiproject, so hopefully it'll grow. --Mairi 06:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{ND-stub}} / Category:North Dakota stubs

Created today, and only used on one article. Badly named, and not proposed on WP:WSS. Author has added it to WP:WSS/ST. Hmm, a WikiProject apparently exists, and so does a {{NorthDakota-politician-stub}} which is ~~in active use~~ undersized. Not sure if it has any potential. In any case, it should be renamed to {{NorthDakota-stub}}. Valentinian ^(talk) 22:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update Author had hidden the category away for the -politician-stub, I should have double checked it before. The -politician-category is only used on 32 articles (sigh!) Valentinian ^(talk) 22:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

rename it and check it in a month or so. if it hasnt grown then sfd it. even with a wp one stub isnt enough. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 23:05, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed to {{NorthDakota-stub}} via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 18:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whole bunch of U.S. state stubs & Category:Stubs by U.S. state

User:CoolKatt number 99999 had fun yesterday adding a stub type for every U.S. state that didn't have one. He also made sure that all the state stubs fed into a new category, Category:Stubs by U.S. state which feeds into Category:United States stubs. What he didn't do was propose any of this, add any appropropiate subtypes to the new stubs he created, or list them on the stub types list. I'm inclined to keep and fix these despite all this. We can use these as a logical starting point for further division of the rather unwieldy US-stub hierarchy. At the very least, we need to keep the cats and turn the templates into redirects of {{US-stub}} for those that don't have 60 stubs of their own. Caerwine Caerwhine 18:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ****. Even if we deleted them, they'd probably turn up again. It'd be great if you'd fix the mess. Valentinian ^(talk) 19:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

some of these would be speediable as recreations but is it worth the effort. the "stubs by state" nonsense should go tho. also send the boys around to have a word with CoolKatt number 99999. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 00:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given the number of subtypes of Category:United States stubs, a holding category for the state cats makes perfect sense as an aid to decluttering, tho I do think it could use a rename, so I'm going to take Category:Stubs by U.S. state to SFD. It would even serve as a useful holding bin for where to repoint the templates if we decide to sebd some of the cats to SFD for being undersized. Caerwine Caerwhine 01:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Stubs by U.S. state" renamed to "United States subdivision stubs" via SFD. Logged discussion here. --TheParanoidOne 22:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]