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Standards for Notability

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I recommend a goal for developing and promoting standards for notability for when it is appropriate to give a game or a game designer their own page. I have had several pages challenged and deleted due to a challenge on notability. Most recently, today, I prepared a page for Cam Banks with links to his work on Marvel Heroic Roleplaying and Leverage: The Roleplaying Game and to his Dragonlance novel. The page was deleted under the speedy deletion policy while I was reading the notification of the challenge. Wikipedia's existing standards for notability, or at least how they are being strictly applied, appear to be a poor fit for RPGs (i.e. a page on Daredevils, a game from the 80s, was challenged for a lack of recent discussion). Leadership on this issue through this Wikiproject would likely help. AusJeb (talk) 22:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Both those are problems with how people are applying the guidelines rather than the guidelines themselves. Daredevils might have been challenged - but the answer is that Wikipedia guidelines are very clear that notability is not temporary. And that some deletionists are twits - but the problems here aren't the rules, they are that people are ignoring them and that New Pages Patrol might as well be a game of Whac-a-mole - and is tougher than Articles For Creation. (Cam Banks also deserves a link to the Smallville Roleplaying Game - as the person who wrote both the Leverage and the Smallville articles, Smallville is a clear pass of the GNG whereas Leverage is only just scraping past) - Cam Banks definitely passes wp:AUTHOR on point three. Also I think we'd be in danger of getting the project deleted if we came up with our own definitions of notability from such a tiny project - and I don't think there really are many ways short of Origins or Diana Jones awards that make someone or something presumed notable. (wp:PORNBIO has enough battles raging around it). I also don't want the deletionists descending on the project - there's an awful lot that isn't sourced and many pages that could easily be AfD problems (even defending the terminology would be a minor nightmare and for most of that it's "Grab three separate RPGs off our shelves"). There was an attempt for a notability page for the project, but it's about five years dead now. Neonchameleon (talk) 02:23, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Active?

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Is this subpage still active? CapnZapp (talk) 08:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's safe to say that the subpages are sleeping. Probably all talk should be on the main page, at the current state of the project. Newimpartial (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Time for a new list of goals

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Since the current list of goals has not changed greatly from what we had 10 years ago today, I decided to rewrite them from scratch and archive the old goals here. BOZ (talk) 05:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Short-term goals

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Short-term goals are measurable and achievable in a reasonably short time. Move a goal to reached when it's finished. (discussion)

Long-term goals

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Long-term goals are what the project is working towards. Move a goal to short-term to focus on it for a period of time.

  1. Add an infobox with an appropriate image to all RPGs.
  2. Catalogue all the notable publishers.
  3. Organize and categorize all notable RPG systems (eg. D20, interlock and others), and write decent articles on them.
  4. Catalogue notable RPG games.
  5. Add other essential RPG-related knowledge to Wikipedia.
  6. Flesh out the stubs at Category:Role-playing game stubs to full articles.
  7. Get Role-playing game to FA status.
  8. Describe terminology that is common to most RPGs.
  9. Get more RPG articles to Good article and Featured article status
  10. Play some RPG.

Reached goals

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Move achieved goals from the other lists here, so we can see if we're making any progress.

  1. Find a good mini-image for {{rpg-stub}} and {{userbox RPG}}.
  2. Decide on a Userbox-look.
  3. Move published RPGs from Category:Role-playing games to the subcategory Category:Published role-playing games. (discussion)
  4. Make a Category: Live-action role-playing games to reduce and organize Category: Role-playing games a bit (see above).
  5. Clean up/reduce and organize the Category: Role-playing games, "spiritual home" of this project. Was a major Project effort, discussion archived on the Talk page.
  6. Write structure guidelines for articles on the project page.
  7. An RPG infobox has been added to articles in the following categories: Indie, GURPS, Horror, World of Darkness, Comedy, Espionage, Superhero, Historical, Science fiction and Fantasy.
  8. An image has been added to articles in the following categories: World of Darkness, GURPS, Horror, Comedy, and Espionage, Superhero.
  9. Get some RPG articles to Good article status
  10. Consistent naming: rename all "Foo (RPG)" and "Foo (Role-playing game)" pages to "Foo (role-playing game)". Note: This assumes 1) that just "Foo", without the parenthetical qualifier, is already used for another article (if it isn't, just use that), and 2) that Foo is a specific role-playing game, not an article about multiple role-playing games, or RPGs in general. The plural, "Foo (role-playing games)", is preferred for those. Category: Role-playing game terms has many examples.


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