Wikipedia:WikiProject Olympics/Peer review/Winter Olympic Games

Winter Olympic Games

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I would like to get editor's opinions on this article as it navigates toward FAC. One question I have is regarding the summary of each Olympics in the History section. It significantly increases the length of the article but I'm just not sure how to comprehensively cover the subject of the Winter Olympics without a brief summary of each Games. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated as would any other input you have on any aspect of the article. I'm trying to get it up to FA standards so please be critical. Thanks. H1nkles (talk) 19:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sillyfolkboy

I think a summary style could serve you well, putting the bulk of the material into History of the Winter Olympic Games. Much of the content is interesting (the journey to Lake Placid, United Sates, was a long and expensive one for most competitors, and there was little money for sports in the midst of the Great Depression./Sonja Henie defended her Olympic title) but ultimately, non-essential in a brief overview of the competition's history. I see that Summer Olympic Games has precisely the same problem. However, the Winter's history is generally good, perhaps even a possible GA article in its own right with a little work. Other possible little touches: A couple more images where possible. Change "Demonstration events" to "Demonstration sports" to fit with other content. FIFA World Cup has a "selection of hosts" section, perhaps one would help here? Or is it covered in the main Olympic Games article already? Is there not a more exciting picture of the 2006 torch? The current one does the job, but it seems a little bland to me. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Join WikiProject Athletics!} 04:24, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sillyfolkboy, for your input. I'm wondering what would replace the history if it is removed. I agree with your assessment that is non-essential. I'll think on replacement ideas. Thanks! H1nkles (talk) 16:55, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reywas92

For such a major article, I do not think it is too long at all. I believe the historical info, while trimmable, should not be split. More review to come later. Reywas92 ^Talk 18:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Parutakupiu

Please, don't mind if I add my comments in successive stages. I'm doing a review by sections, so it's easier for me. Parutakupiu (talk) 17:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate any review you can give. If you could weigh in on the debate above regarding the history section that would be appreciated. The outcome of the debate could fundamentally change this article. If it passes FA, it would then impact the Summer Olympics article, which gets about double the page views that the Winter Olympics page gets. Thanks again. H1nkles (talk) 14:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding that point, I think that the current situation is the best compromise between length and comprehensiveness. Of course, one can juggle with some paragraphs back and forth between sub-sections, and trim some text here and there to make it even more objective and concise. Apart from this, I think that the section content is very good: you say what's important about every Games and you provide sources (apart from one or two things). I hope this helps you. Parutakupiu (talk) 22:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Use {{about}} to display both "For" links in a single line.
"The Winter Olympic Games is a winter multi-sport event..." → "The Winter Olympic Games are a winter multi-sport event..."
"...such as Alpine skiing,..." → Lowercase "Alpine".
When it states that some sports have been competed since 1924, you repeat many of those in the previous sentence. Since your giving examples, you could remove alpine skiing and bobsledding, leaving just those you repeat in the following sentence. Then in this sentence, you can say something like "These sports, along with Nordic combined, ski jumping, and speed skating..."
"Other ~~athletic~~ events have been added as the Games have progressed~~. Some~~, and some of ~~these events~~ them,..."
"Others, like speed skiing, bandy, and skijöring ~~have been~~ were demonstration sports..."
"Fewer countries participate in the Winter Olympics than the Summer Olympics." → This one looks isolated; try to move it to the end of the previous paragraph.". Also "...~~than~~ as compared to participation in the Summer Olympics."
"At that time the Winter Games split from the Summer Games." → They were fused? Better explain more clearly.
"The rise of television as a global medium for communication has ~~greatly~~ enhanced..." → Redundant.
"...performance-enhancing drugs by Winter ~~Olympic athletes~~ Olympians" → Mind the hyphen.
Why not mention the other two-time host countries? It's only three more.
France and Norway are not linked when mentioning Chamonix and Lillehammer, so why are Canada and Russia?
"The Games will then be hosted by Sochi~~, Russia~~, in 2014~~. This will be~~, making it the first ~~time that Russia had hosted a~~ Russian city to host the Winter Olympic Games."

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