Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues/Arizona
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Many original notes below identified data errors in a NRIS database version of 2013. It is possible some have since been corrected in NRIS, as evidenced by spreadsheets on listings up to June 28, 2022 and on removed properties up to June 28, 2022 available for download (as of November 25, 2022) at "Data downloads" page: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nationalregister/data-downloads.htm. I have downloaded copies of those. Henceforth call the listings one "Data-download-listings-2022-06-28". --Doncram (talk,contribs) 19:54, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Omitted item
[edit]- Sam Hughes Neighborhood Historic District, with refnum=94001164, in Tucson in Pima County, Arizona, does not appear in NRIS2013a database, although a later boundary increase does appear (and there was also an approval of additional documentation later). It must have been listed in 1994 to have that refnum, though. See 94001164, boundary increase 00001363). Its boundaries were increased with reference number 00001363 on December 1, 2000.[1] Additional documentation for this historic district was approved November 29, 2013 with reference number 94001164.[2] Thanks to User:Ipoellet for noting discrepancy at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Pima County, Arizona. --Doncram (talk) 05:28, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Actually 1994-09-29 as date of listing can be inferred from "date published" field at NPGallery info on 94001164. It still appears that the original item is or was not in the NRIS2013a version of database. --Doncram (talk) 05:39, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Data-download-listings-2022-06-28 still shows just the boundary increase, not the original listing (shows "00001363 Sam Hughes Neighborhood Historic District (Boundary Increase) Listed Single FALSE DISTRICT ARIZONA Pima Tucson Roughly bounded by E. Speedway Blvd., N. Country Club Rd., E. Broadway Blvd., and N. Campbell Ave. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/75610496 False True False False False 12/1/2000 ...") --Doncram (talk,contribs) 20:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Property names
[edit]- Sunflower Ranger Station is listed with typo of "Staiton" rather than "Station". It's in/near Punkin Center in Maricopa County, Arizona. doncram (talk) 11:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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- UPDATE: Data-download-listings-2022-06-28 still shows the typo in place (shows "93000528 Sunflower Ranger Staiton Listed ...") --Doncram (talk,contribs) 20:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Schoolhouse Point (AR-03-12-06-13(TNF) in rural Gila County has one left parenthesis and two right parentheses: change "(TNF)" to "TNF)" or to "(TNF))". Nyttend (talk) 01:24, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- La Cuidad de Mexico Grocery in Flagstaff, Coconino County, is probably misspelled. "Ciudad" is Spanish for "city"; there is no Spanish word "cuidad" (although "cuidado" means "caution"). The name should probably be "Ciudad de Mexico", although it's possible that the original grocers misspelled it and that the incorrect but historic spelling should be preserved. Ammodramus (talk) 17:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- The Wilbur O. Bayless/Grasty House (refnum 85000879) in Casa Grande, Pinal County, appears in a misspelled form when one searches for properties in Casa Grande. The search returns a result for "Wilbur O. Baylis/Grasty House". When one clicks on that link, one gets an individual site page on which the name is correctly spelled "Bayless", as it appears in the nom form. Searching for "Bayless" at the Focus site does not produce a hit for this property. Ammodramus (talk) 02:12, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- What should apparently be Johnston's Grocery Store was mis-identified as Johnson's Grocery Store in Arizona State Historic Property Inventory form for the site. The error was reported by I.P. editor who has association with the site in this edit at the List of historic properties in Casa Grande, Arizona article. There appears to be no fault in NRIS data entry; the error is in the Arizona state document. --Doncram (talk) 23:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- J. Max Anderson House is listed in NRIS as "Max J. Anderson House". Arizona state inventory form at https://npgallery.nps.gov/GetAsset/4910793d-be08-4233-87d1-1d1c47086881 shows clearly as J. Max Anderson House. --Doncram (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Demolished but still listed
[edit]- Safford High School, 520 Eleventh St., Safford, Arizona. The 1915-built building was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1988 and remains listed, apparently erroneously as the building is gone. The current SHS article reports: "Once the high school moved to its current campus the original Safford Junior High School, which had its own building adjacent to the high school, was torn down in 1980. Safford Junior High, then later Middle, School occupied the main building and the gymnasium until the mid 1990's when concerns for those buildings safety prompted them to be razed and replaced<ref>p. 159. ''Bulldogs Forever: A History of Safford High School, 1915-2007'', by James Earl Gonzales. Eastern Arizona College Press, Thatcher, Arizona. 2007</ref> doncram (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Southern Pacific Railroad Depot (Yuma, Arizona), on Gila St., Yuma, Arizona, listed on June 22, 1976, refnum=76000384. The wikipedia article about the current Amtrak station reports that the NRHP-listed structure was razed after a devastating fire in 1995. doncram (talk) 09:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC), note revised doncram (talk) 19:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fourth Avenue Underpass, in Tucson - reported DEMOLISHED by a wikipedia editor in the List of RHPs in Pima.
- A sign at the north end of the underpass (see photo) indicates that the underpass was rebuilt in 2009. Ammodramus (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Laundry Building, refnum 85000887, at "Rear of 309 West 8th" in Casa Grande, Pinal County, Arizona, is apparently no longer extant. A 2013 photo of the odd-numbered side of the 300s block of W. 8th Street shows only a vacant lot. The site is not listed on Casa Grande Mainstreet's "Main Street District Historic Sites" webpage; the address is within the borders of the district shown on the map there. Ammodramus (talk) 15:46, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Shonessy Building/Don Chun Wo Store, refnum 85000893, at "121 W. Main Ave." in Casa Grande, Pinal County, is apparently no longer extant. September 2013 photos at Commons:Category:Shonessy house (Casa Grande, Arizona) show no buildings in the 100s block of West Main Avenue apart from the Shonessy House, separately listed on the NRHP. Casa Grande Mainstreet's "Main Street District Historic Sites" webpage lists the Shonessy house, but not the Shonessy building. Ammodramus (talk) 16:22, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Dominion Hotel (refnum 78000545) in Globe, Gila County, was demolished after a fire in the 1980s, possibly 1981. See "Arizona Edison", at Globe Main Street Program website, which refers to "the demolition of the Dominion Hotel which burned in the 1980s". An Arizona history blog gives a date of 1981 for the fire. Ammodramus (talk) 17:37, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Buena Vista Hotel (Safford, Arizona), refnum 87002560, is no longer extant. Photos of the north (even-numbered) side of the 300s block of Main (photo 1, photo 2) show only the Motor Vehicle Division building at 310 Main. Two articles in the Eastern Arizona Courier speak of the hotel in past tense: "Buena Vista showcased musical talents", 2005-10-19; and Robinson, Stephany Mae, "Mt. Graham timber built Valley, 2011-10-19. Ammodramus (talk) 17:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Masonic Hall (Wickenburg, Arizona) included in Wickenburg MRA, listed with refnum 86001583. Per report from User:Carptrash and indication by other as well (see List of historic properties in Wickenburg, Arizona), the building may no longer exist; it have been demolished. Located at "108 Tegner". Looking at Google maps and Google street view, I can't tell if 108 N. Tegner or 108 S. Tegner is more likely the location; it does not appear at either. Not clear if some portion of the building might survive inside a replacement building. --Doncram (talk) 13:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Fieldwork was conducted at both N 108 and S 108 Tegner, the Hall was at neither. A volunteer at local history museum reported that the Masonic Hall had been torn down and the new (ca. 2010) city hall, county building built on the space. Carptrash (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- My own evidence that the building has been demolished by 2018: Google Streetview image capture July 2011 (accessed 2021-01-28) shows only empty lot where i would think 108 S. Tegner would be (on w side of street); image capture 2018 (accessed 2021-01-28) shows modern gift shop building where 108 N. Tegner could be (on w side of street). --Doncram (talk) 04:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- And User:Carptrash is entirely reliable, as would be the local history museum volunteer mentioned, about the Wickenburg/Maricopa County Municipal building complex now located on N. Tegner (on e side of street). --Doncram (talk) 04:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
County location issue
[edit]- Two sites incorrectly listed in Maricopa County, Arizona in the NRIS database:
- Curtis Cottage: address (125 S. McCormick, Prescott) is clearly in Yavapai County, Arizona;
- Rhoda Nohlechek House: the location (Jct. of 2nd St. and Date Ave., NW corner, Wenden) is clearly in La Paz County, Arizona.
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Town location issue
[edit]- Marsh Heights Historic District in Nogales, Arizona is identified as being in "Nogalez". Nyttend (talk) 21:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Typo in nearest town name: Santa Fe, Prescott & Phoenix Railway, Limestone Canyon District listed as near Ashfork, Arizona, but it should be Ash Fork, Arizona
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- Typo in town name: Marsh Heights Historic District listed in Nogalez, Arizona, when i think it should be Nogales, Arizona where there are many other Santa Cruz County listings in List of RHPs in AZ. doncram (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Wickenburg-Boetto House is listed in Wichenburg but is in Wickenburg, Arizona. Typo is h rather than k in town name. doncram (talk) 09:40, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Wickenburg-Boetto House in Wickenburg, Arizona is identified as being in "Wichenburg, Arizona". Nyttend (talk) 23:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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Architect or builder
[edit]- Coolidge Woman's Club is claimed in NRIS2013a to have been designed by Phoenix architect "C. Louis Kelley", consistent with its NRHP nomination document ({{cite web|url=https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/90001524_text), but the name is "C. Lewis Kelley" as NRHP doc for Phoenix's Alvarado Historic District and Ashland Place Historic District (NRHP doc for Ashland Place HD, which are Phoenix-knowledgeable sources. [ --Doncram (talk) 02:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Or is it "C. Lewis Kelly" as appears in MPS doc with some more info about him. --Doncram (talk) 02:34, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Gila River Bridge, on Old Safford Rd., 6.8 miles southeast of Clifton, Arizona, built in 1918, is NRIS-listed as having architect or builder = Leeson,R.V. and/or Topeka Bridge & Iron Co., but the HABS/HAER documentation for it is clear that R.V. Leeson, working for Topeka Bridge & Iron Co. created a design WHICH WAS NOT THE ONE BUILT. --Doncram (talk) 06:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Street address issues
[edit]- Curley School, Ajo, AZ: Address in NRIS is 201 Esperanza School. It should be 201 W. Esperanza Ave.[1] --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- North End Historic Residential District in Flagstaff is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Hunt, San Fransisco and Verde, Elm and Cherry, and Beaver and Humphreys Sts."; correct "Fransisco" to "Francisco". Nyttend (talk) 04:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Southern Pacific Railroad Locomotive No. 1673 was moved from Himmel Park in Tucson to the Southern Pacific Railroad Depot, in downtown Tucson in 2000.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 18:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Manning Cabin is listed at the Focus site as being "10 mi. E of Tucson in Saquaro National Monument". There are two issues here. First, "Saguaro" is misspelled: the third letter should be a G, not a Q. Second, it is now Saguaro National Park. Ammodramus (talk) 04:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- The John Gung'l House in Willcox, Cochise County, is listed as being at 210 S. El Paso Avenue. In 1989, the name of the street was changed to Austin Boulevard: see "George Austin", Arizona Range News, 2010-04-28. The current address is 210 S. Austin Blvd. Ammodramus (talk) 04:15, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Pioneer Market in Casa Grande, Pinal County, is listed as being at "119 Florence Street". There are two issues here. First, the photos and descriptions at the nom form indicate a two-bay building; ground-truthing indicates that it includes 117 N. Florence as well as 119 N. Florence (see numbers above doors in photo). Second, addresses should be given as "N. Florence Street", since there are also S. Florence St. addresses. An address of "117-119 N. Florence Street" would be more accurate. Ammodramus (talk) 13:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Bien/McNatt House (refnum 85000880) in Casa Grande, Pinal County, is listed as being at "208A W. 1st St." The address has apparently been changed slightly: it's now just 208 W. 1st St. A photo of the front of the house shows two mailboxes, on which the addresses "208" and "208 1/2" can be read; the latter apparently belongs to a two-story building behind the Bien-McNatt house (visible behind and to the right of the front house in this photo). Ammodramus (talk) 21:01, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Judge William T. Day House (refnum 85001624) in Casa Grande, Pinal County, is listed as being at "310 W. 1st St." The address painted on the curb (no photo available) is 306; Mainstreet Casa Grande's "Main Street District Historic Sites" page gives "306 W 1st St". Ammodramus (talk) 21:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Meehan/Gaar House (refnum 85000890) in Casa Grande, Pinal County, is listed as being at "202 W. 1st St." The actual address, visible on the pillar just to the right of the red car in this photo, is 200 W. 1st St. This is also the address given by Mainstreet Casa Grande's "Main Street District Historic Sites" page. Ammodramus (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- All Saint's Church (refnum 84000768) in Oracle, Pinal County, is listed as being at "AZ 77". The highway appears to have been rerouted around Oracle, and the church does not lie on it. The current address is "705 E. American Avenue". (The Oracle Union Church website gives it as "705 E. American Way", but this usage appears to be idiosyncratic: Oracle's street signs, and websites for Oracle businesses, refer to the streeet as "American Avenue".) Ammodramus (talk) 13:16, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ramon Arballo House (refnum 86002623) is listed as being at "405 Park St." in Florence, Pinal County, Arizona. Florence has apparently changed its house-numbering system since the 1986 listing of this house; a 2013 photo shows a number plaque reading "515". Ammodramus (talk) 19:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Dr. George Huffman House (refnum 86002629) in Florence, Pinal County, is listed as being at "507 E. Butte Street". Florence has apparently changed its house-numbering system since the house's listing; a 2013 photo shows the number "471" on the gate. Also, per signage, Butte is "Avenue" and not "Street": so the correct address is probably "471 E. Butte Avenue". Ammodramus (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Second Andronico Lorona House (refnum 86002631) in Florence, Pinal County, is listed as being at "704 Silver St." Florence has apparently changed its house-numbering system since the house's listing; a 2013 photo shows the address "324" near the photo's right edge. Ammodramus (talk) 02:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- The Manjarres House (refnum 87001591) in Florence, Pinal County, is listed as being at "203 Silver St." Florence has apparently changed its house-numbering system since the house's listing; a 2013 photo shows the address "351" on the door. Ammodramus (talk) 02:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- St. John's Episcopal Church (refnum 77000234) in Globe, Gila County, is listed as being at "175 E. Oak St." According to the church's website and to a sign outside the church, the address is "185 E. Oak Street". Ammodramus (talk) 16:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- International House (refnum 88000233) in Globe, Gila County, is listed as being at "636--638 N. Broad St." The building has three bays, numbered 634, 636, and 638: the 636 and 638 can be seen over the center and north bay in this photo; the 634 over the south bay door can't be read in that photo, but has been photographed close-up in this one. The address should probably be given as "634-638 N. Broad St." or as "634-636-638 N. Broad St." Ammodramus (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Bullion Plaza School (refnum 00001591) in Miami, Gila County, is listed as being at "1000 Plaza Ave." According to the "Bullion Plaza Museum" subpage of Globe-Miami Times, the address is "131 N. Plaza Circle Drive". (Note that near the top of the page, an address of "131 N Plaza Circle" is given; but this is corrected further down the page.) Ammodramus (talk) 23:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Soderman Building (refnum 00000465) in Miami, Gila County, is listed as being at "55 Chisholm". The actual address is "198 N. Chisholm Ave.": see Copper Miners' Rest bed-and-breakfast. Ammodramus (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church (refnum 07001332) in Miami, Gila County, is listed as being at "914 Sullivan St." According to the church's website, it's at "844 West Sullivan Street". Ammodramus (talk) 00:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- The nom form for the T. D. Cross House (refnum 87002563) in Safford, Arizona, gives its address as "918 1st Ave.". A 2015 photo shows an address of "908" on the building. There is a 918 1st Ave, located behind 908; however, ground-truthing and Google aerial photos both indicate that it in no way matches the description or photo in the nom form. Ammodramus (talk) 17:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
- Isaacson Building (refnum 83002997) in St. Johns, Apache County, Arizona, is listed as being at 37 Commercial Street. There is no address on the building itself, but it's on the even-numbered side of the street, just west of the St. Johns municipal building at 70 E. Commercial. See 2017 photo showing both buildings. Ammodramus (talk) 02:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Harvey-Niemeyer House, in Florence, Arizona, now located at 250 S. Main St., was listed in NRIS2013a as located at 1613 Main St. No, it was then located at 1618 Main St. (or 1618 S. Main St.) per info in the Florence Multiple Resource Area study [Reba N. Wells; Andrea Urbas (October 1, 1985). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory-Nomination: Florence Multiple Resource Area". National Archives. ] and per mention of location of telegraph office within its own writeup [ Billy G. Garrett (1984). "Florence MRA - Site Number 11 - Harvey/Niemeyer House: Supplemental Information". National Park Service. Retrieved November 20, 2021. With accompanying photo from 1985, and Arizona State Historic Property Inventory of 1985 ]. How did its current address become 250 S. Main St.? It seems to me far more likely that the street was renumbered, rather than it having been moved, because it is of adobe and brick construction. Documentation that it is currently at 250 S. Main St. is easy to find, and some is included in its wikipedia article (which is temporarily at Draft:Harvey-Niemeyer House). --Doncram (talk) 05:08, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Coordinates issues
[edit]- Incorrect coordinates for sites in Maricopa County, Arizona:
- Frankenberg House at 2222 S Price Rd., Tempe: Current coordinates in NRIS are 12°23′21″N 111°45′46″W. Per Google Earth, they should be 33°24′10.95″N 111°53′31.17″W;
- Phoenix Union Colored High School at 415 E. Grant St., Phoenix: Current coordinates in NRIS are 32°32′17″N 112°3′22″W. They should be 33°26′21.58″N 112°3′59.69″W;
- North Central Avenue Streetscape Historic District, Central Ave., bet. Bethany Home Rd. and the Arizona Canal, Phoenix: Current coordinates in NRIS are 33°19′30″N 109°34′28″W. Per Google Earth, N. Central Ave. and W. Bethany Home Rd. is at 33°31′25.7″N 112°4′25.27″W and N. Central Ave. at the Arizona Canal is at 33°33′44.47″N 112°4′25.93″W. The W coordinate in the NRIS can't be correct.
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- Hart Store in Coconino County, Arizona was listed in the Pacific Ocean straight south of the southern point of Baja California and straight west of the coastline of El Salvador. The Frankenberg House (Maricopa County) lies just a little bit to the west. Apparently Arizona has some amphibious buildings! Nyttend (talk) 01:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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