Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Wilbur Dartnell

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Article promoted by Ian Rose (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 12:31, 21 September 2017 (UTC) « Return to A-Class review list[reply]

Wilbur Dartnell

Nominator(s): Abraham, B.S. (talk)

Following up with another Victoria Cross recipient. Dartnell was born in Melbourne, fought in the Boer War as a teenager and later in the Bambatha Rebellion. After working for a few years as a professional actor (on which details are surprisingly and unfortunately scant), he immigrated to South Africa and, on the outbreak of the First World War, joined the Royal Fusiliers for service in the East African Campaign. Dartnell was posthumously awarded the VC for his actions in voluntarily remaining with the wounded after his unit was ambushed and forced to retire. The article was listed as GA some months ago and I believe it also meets the A-Class criteria. Any and all comments welcome, and much appreciated. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 03:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking, Nikkimaria! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:09, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - "Fruiterer"? Is that a real word/profession? Otherwise this looks fantastic. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:46, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, Ed! Surprisingly, it is – a "fruiterer" is defined (according to Google) as "a retailer of fruit." Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 12:33, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support: G'day, this looks pretty good to me. Nice work. I have the following suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 12:11, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if splitting the lead would be a good idea, to turn it into two paragraphs
- I can, but it seems to flow as is and I am concerned that splitting it would leave two rather short paragraphs.
"On 3 September 1915, after his company had been ambushed and although wounded, Dartnell..." --> "On 3 September 1915, despite being wounded after his company had been ambushed, Dartnell..."?

Tweaked – let me know what you think.

German East Africa appears to be overlinked

It is, but the first mention is linked as "Germany's neighbouring colonial possessions" (so readers would know what the article is referring to) and the second as German East Africa direct (in case readers missed the first link).

"The other three were John Butler, William Bloomfield and Frederick Booth": is there a ref that could be added for this?

Added to note – same source as that used in the text.

I wonder if it would make more sense to move the picture of Dartnell as a teenager to earlier in the article so that it aligns more closely to the chronology of the text?

I agree that that would normally be ideal. However, and on my screen at least, moving the image up to the "Early life" section would lead to some serious sandwiching of text with the infobox, which I am eager to avoid. I thought the "Legacy" section would be the most suitable alternative, as it seems ill-fitted to the First World War.

Thanks very much for the review, AustralianRupert! Much appreciated. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 13:42, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comments~~ Support Nice work. I have a few comments before I support.

The lead reads too lengthy, I suggest you to break it down into two to improve the readability.
- Done.
Section 1; para 2; last sentence; is there any specific reason for why he changed the name? And at the end "became engaged to another woman, a Mabel Evans", I don't think it is right to have "a" before "Mabel Evans".
- The reason for the name change is not known, unfortunately. As for the "a", it is a common technique used for persons about whom little is known.
list of eager names; to keep it more good looking, I suggest "interested" instead "eager"
- Done.

Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the review, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 11:46, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GTG. --Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 01:00, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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