Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Western Area Command (RAAF)
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Parallel to the ACR for North-Eastern Area Command, I present one on the longest-surviving RAAF area command, which operated from 1941 to 1956 and covered most of Western Australia. Geography meant that its prime focus was maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare, so its story was never going to be as action-packed as its northern cousins but, unlike North-Eastern Area at least, it did get to control an RAAF B-24 Liberator heavy bomber squadron, No. 25, which still exists as the non-flying "City of Perth" squadron. FWIW, this will probably be my last area command ACR for a while, until more of the others' operational records are digitised... :-) Any and all comments welcome! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:27, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Support: just a few minor suggestions/comments, otherwise fantastic work as always, Ian: AustralianRupert (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- tech review: alt text present, no dabs, ext links all work;
- the article is well referenced, and the prose seems fine to me;
- suggestion: perhaps mention something about the post war drawn down (to clarify why units were disbanded in the aftermath of the war, or something about demobilization). It wouldn't need much more than half a sentence, probably;
- "File:OperationHurricane.png": also needs a US licence;
- Hmm, yes, it probably does but PD-1996 wouldn't apply in this case and I'm not sure offhand what would. @Nikkimaria: this did get through FAC when I used it in William Hely a while back but I'm wondering about it now (I wasn't the original uploader)... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Is there anything to the trade agreement mentioned in the description? I haven't seen that raised before that I can recall. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- I really don't know anything about it, Nikki, I guess I just assumed at the time (for Hely) that being on Commons it was fine to use. According to the user page the uploader has died so we can't ask him. I'd love to use this if you think there's a way but if not then I guess I'd better remove and find something else. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- You could use the print only, omitting the photo? Copyright on that would only have been 25 years. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
- Tks Nikki, I thought I'd go with a PD image from the AWM -- not quite as interesting as the newspaper front page, but then again a relief map of the area is no bad thing and it it does relate to the atomic test. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:41, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
- You could use the print only, omitting the photo? Copyright on that would only have been 25 years. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
- I really don't know anything about it, Nikki, I guess I just assumed at the time (for Hely) that being on Commons it was fine to use. According to the user page the uploader has died so we can't ask him. I'd love to use this if you think there's a way but if not then I guess I'd better remove and find something else. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Is there anything to the trade agreement mentioned in the description? I haven't seen that raised before that I can recall. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hmm, yes, it probably does but PD-1996 wouldn't apply in this case and I'm not sure offhand what would. @Nikkimaria: this did get through FAC when I used it in William Hely a while back but I'm wondering about it now (I wasn't the original uploader)... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- "Labuan-Brunei": probably should have an endash instead of a hyphen;
- "D.E.L. Wilson": Wilson's full name was Douglas Ernest Lancelot Wilson. Refs: [1] and [2] (suggest maybe just calling him "Douglas Wilson" in the article)
- All done except for the image question. Thanks as always Rupert! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Support by Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC) Looks to be in really good shape, as expected. I have a few minor queries.
- perhaps it is worth explicitly mentioning that Kormoran sank Sydney and was scuttled as a result of the battle. Without that context, locating the crew of the Kormoran doesn't really make sense.
- suggest By end of that month, headquarters
- I assume the difficulties with identifying the aircraft flown by the various squadrons at various stages also apply here? I note that you have done this in later parts of the article, but I mean in the early bit.
- Many tks PM, I'll look at these later today. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- Tweaked the first two. Re. the third, yeah, the initial mention from the unit history doesn't mention types but I've added something soon afterwards that should do the trick. I figured it wasn't worth going into detail for Nos. 452, 457, 18, 31, and 120 Squadrons during the March 1944 scare, as the units were never used in anger in the West and soon returned to the home bases. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- Sounds fair. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:18, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
- Tweaked the first two. Re. the third, yeah, the initial mention from the unit history doesn't mention types but I've added something soon afterwards that should do the trick. I figured it wasn't worth going into detail for Nos. 452, 457, 18, 31, and 120 Squadrons during the March 1944 scare, as the units were never used in anger in the West and soon returned to the home bases. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- Many tks PM, I'll look at these later today. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Source review All sources appear reliable and are properly formatted. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Support Everything looks good to me. Nothing to add. Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Much appreciated, Hawkeye. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:01, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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