Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SMS Prinzregent Luitpold

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Promoted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Prinzregent Luitpold

Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk)

Yet another German dreadnought (I know, but there are only two left after this); this one managed to emerge from Jutland completely undamaged. This article passed a GA review back in January 2011, and has been sitting in the queue for ACR since then. I look forward to working with reviewers to ensure this article meets and exceeds Milhist's quality standards, in preparation for an eventual run at FAC. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 13:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments based on HRS volume 7. Feel free to add the info MisterBee1966 (talk) 19:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Christened by Princess Theresa of Bavaria; p. 54
Speech by Ludwig III of Bavaria; p. 54.
- Both added in - thanks for these details. Parsecboy (talk) 13:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose per standard disclaimer. These are my edits. (If no edits are showing, the toolserver needs time to catch up.) - Dank (push to talk) 22:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Prinzregent Luitpold was assigned to the III Battle Squadron and later the IV Battle Squadron of the High Seas Fleet for the majority of her career, including World War I." - Would something like "Prinzregent Luitpold was initially assigned to the III Battle Squadron of the High Seas Fleet, but later transferred to the IV Battle Squadron, where she spent the majority of her career, including World War I." work?
- I like your "initially" suggestion; for the rest, your version is fine, but generally, Wikipedians seem to be happy with the way Nate puts it here ... and if it's okay, then it's tighter than your version. YMMV. - Dank (push to talk)
  - Leave it up to Parsecboy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - The only problem with the suggested wording is it implies that the ship spent the majority of her career in the IV Squadron, which was not the case. See how it reads now. Parsecboy (talk) 15:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - Good.
Be careful with overlinking/duplicate linking. I'm still on the lede and I've removed three
In early September 1917, following the German conquest of the Russian port of Riga, the German navy decided to eliminate the Russian naval forces that still held the Gulf of Riga. - Any way to avoid Riga ... Riga?
- I don't follow ... one's a city, one's a gulf. How do we avoid mentioning one or the other? - Dank (push to talk) 12:52, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Err, yeah. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The accident caused no serious damage, however. " - Reads awkward, any way to fit it in with the preceding sentence?

Not many prose issues. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images:

File:Bundesarchiv DVM 10 Bild-23-61-53, Großlinienschiff "SMS Prinzregent Luitpold".jpg should be cropped to remove the archive data.
~~File:SMS Prinzregent Luitpold.png - Needs author and date~~
File:Jutland1916.jpg - Source is dead. Have another?
File:Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1970-074-34, Besetzung der Insel Ösel, Truppenanlandung.jpg - Fine (no action required)
File:Internment at Scapa Flow.svg - Fine (no action required)

Once again, nothing all too bad. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:32, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- Should all be fixed. That Jutland map has been a pain - this isn't the first time the link went dead. Parsecboy (talk) 15:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Will check tomorrow. I'd suggest webcitation.org — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Don't know if this is an issue with the server, but I'm getting a 404 error with the new version of File:Bundesarchiv DVM 10 Bild-23-61-53, Großlinienschiff "SMS Prinzregent Luitpold".jpg. File:Jutland1916.jpg should link to the web page and not directly to the file. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:18, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - Probably a server issue - I re-uploaded the image, see if that works for you. Why should the direct link not be used? Parsecboy (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        That fixed it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Never mind the second one. I seem to recall seeing that we're supposed to link to the page it's on and not the file, but I can't find that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:59, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Looks up to A-class standards to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments: looks quite good overall. These are my suggestions/comments:

"After arriving in Kiel, Prinzregent Luitpold went into drydock for periodic" --> "After arriving in Kiel, Prinzregent Luitpold went into a drydock for periodic..."?
the duplicate link tool reports a few examples of potential overlink: I Scouting Group, Roadstead, Pre-dreadnought;
would it be possible to work in mention of the size of the ship's crew into the body of the article? Currently it seems to only be mentioned in the infobox. AustralianRupert (talk) 08:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "drydock" in this case functions as an abstract noun, instead of referring to a specific drydock at a specific shipyard, so the indefinite article isn't needed here. I've cleaned up the links and added a line on the crew to the design section. Thanks, AR. Parsecboy (talk) 17:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fair enough. Thanks for making those other changes. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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