Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Bajrang

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Operation Bajrang

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Nominator(s): NeverTry4Me (talk)

NeverTry4Me (talk) attempted to nominate; I have created the nomination for them. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:37, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Catlemur

The lede is supposed to summarize the contents of the article instead of providing new information (hence it does not need to be referenced). So parts of it need to be moved to the Background section (second and third paragraphs). In doing so it should equally summarize each of the article's sections, so it needs to be expanded. See WP:LEDE.

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Done Done per source available without any personal view or opinion. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From my understanding Operation Bajrang forms part of the Assam insurgency and hence of the wider Insurgency in Northeast India, I included a relevant campaignbox but you removed it (I didn't quite understand your edit summary). The article's current Background section is quite limited for an A class article. Was Operation Bajrang part of a wider conflict? Why was ULFA fighting against the Indian government and when did their insurgency begin? A reader outside India would be highly unlikely to know any of this.

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Done I removed it as the operation was the first one which is followed by several other military operations. Perhaps a template about those operations would be helpful. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As you have stated in the article ULFA was formed in 1979 and later launched an uprising (before 1990), so that implies that there was already an insurgency going on before Operation Bajrang. Hence Operation Bajrang was not the start of a new conflict but rather a part of preexisting one. So I still fail to understand the reasoning behind "Part of Indian military operations against North-eastern militants" when every single article about insurgencies includes both government launched and insurgent launched operations e.g. Template:Campaignbox Greek Civil War, Template:Campaignbox Naxalite insurgency etc.--Catlemur (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"killing of many Congress leaders" - Can you specify the Congress you are writing about?

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Done Done. It was then Congress(I), and now Indian National Congress. I kept Congress(I) in the state election line as per sources. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"forest of Lakhipathar where the ULFA had their Central Headquarter (CHQ) and General Headquarter (GHQ) in the forest of Charaipung" - Where are those located? The article does not currently specify Assam's location within India as well. A map would be much appreciated.

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Done Done. Added one per collection. But as I don't have any images, and can't add them without avoiding the COPYRIGHT issue, I can't add. If you suggest, I can add some maps. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"2 days before the operation was started" → "two days" per MOS:NUMERAL.

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Done Fixed. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink jawans and put it in italics since it's an Indian term.

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Done Fixed. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Some army personnel were also killed as the result of gunfight and landmine explosions that ULFA militants made the set up as they had prior information about the army operation." - This sentence seems redundant since you have already mentioned that ULFA had set up mines and was aware of the Indian army's plans from beforehand.

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Done It's also fixed within my capacity. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LTTE is wikilinked three times in one sentence, one time is enough.

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Done Done. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you expand on the topic of LTTE-ULFA collaboration?

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Done Done per sources available. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"15 activists were killed" - Are activists and militants the same thing in this context?

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Done Done. Activists as per source, but more sources available about the killing of civilians and sympathizers. My intention was not to go beyond claims supported by sources. Maintained POV. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Rs 5 Crore" - See MOS:CRORE.

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Done Done. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Assam Pradesh Congress(I) Committee's General secretary Manabendra Sarma" - Capitalize secretary.

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Done Done. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is very little detail about the course of the operation itself.

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Done Done. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Was anyone ever tried or punished for the alleged atrocities?

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Done None faced any trial as the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act provides the power to the army as "Army officers have legal immunity for their actions. There can be no prosecution, suit, or any other legal proceeding against anyone acting under that law. Nor is the government's judgment on why an area is found to be disturbed subject to judicial review." The Act is widely criticized and for decades several protests against the Act were held but the Indian government has yet not repealed this controversial act. The Act was introduced in 1958, when there was no insurgency in Assam. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"escaped to their Bangladesh camp" - Where was the camp located exactly?

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Done Done. Camps were in Sherpur of Bangladesh _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide more details about the impact of the operation on the course of the ULFA insurgency?--Catlemur (talk) 02:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Done Impacts are ~~in the Assamese language, a few in English. Will that work?~~ as per source avalaible. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry @Catlemur: for the late response as I was not aware (not pinged). Any improvement by others will be accepted in good faith. _-✍NeverTry4Me⛅ C♯ 08:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the image File:Op-Bajrang-Img.jpg taken from? Unless you personally took that photo it is not your own work, so the Licensing would be different.
Can you please alphabetize the Bibliography section?
"there was an uprising of nationalism in Assam" - Do you mean a nationalist uprising?
There should be at least one separate paragraph dedicated entirely to the Assam Movement and origins of the insurgency. With the events of 1989-1990 being split into a second one.
"loans up to Rs 2 Lakh" - This also falls under MOS:CRORE.--Catlemur (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing that the nominator was indeffed a couple weeks ago, I'm going to be closing this as unsuccessful for the time being; NeverTry4Me if you're ever able to come back this can be renominated. Hog Farm _Talk 03:01, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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