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Closing as consensus to promote Woody (talk) 11:34, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Horace Robertson

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Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk)


Another Australian general. This time its Red Robbie. He's already been on the front page as a DYK. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support -- Reviewed/passed for GA and see no reason it shouldn't get A-Class. Done another pass just to check for overlinking and any other obvious prose issues but little leapt out. As ever, structure, coverage, referencing, and supporting materials all look good -- well done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Horace was nicknamed "Red Robbie" by whom?
    • caused it to be graduated seems awkward to me
    • because at the time junior officers required the Army's permission to marry, and at age 20 Robertson would not have received it. Leaves the reader begging to know why—why he wouldn't have received permission and why he needed it in the first place
    • Is there anything more known about his wife, in particular where they met?
    • Are you sure about omitting "regiment" from 10th Light Horse?
    • Why is "machine gun" hyphenated? OK, in "machine-gun officer" and "machine-gun sections", it's a compound adjective, but not in "the machine-guns were brigaded together"
      • See Rupert's comments. - Dank (push to talk) 16:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hmm, I have a concise OED in front of me (which I'll concede is for Brits, not Aussies, but the two are similar), which says the noun should be "machine gun" (2 machine guns) and "machine-gun" should be used as a compound adjective (machine-gun brigade) or a verb (to machine-gun). I don't want to make a capital case of it, but Wiktionary seems to concur. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • It's a bit lineball. Agree proper English rules suggest "two machine guns" but "machine-gun company", i.e. the double-barrelled adjective is hyphened, but in common usage (not just in WP) it often seems hyphenated no matter what. As long as one method or the other is applied consistently within the article it should be reasonable. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Was he promoted straight from second lieutenant (preusmably his rank on commissioning) to captain or did he pass through lieutenant first?
    • Afterwards, Robertson was promoted to captain and became second in command of A Squadron. On 28 August, Robertson assumed command of C Squadron.[4] The next day he participated in the fighting at Battle of Hill 60. That's a bit choppy—could you smooth it out so we don't have three short sentences in a row?
    • This was as far as he could go, for Duntroon graduates could not be promoted above major. Why not?
    • His substantive rank remained that of lieutenant and he would not be promoted to the substantive rank of major until 1932 You'll need to explain the concept of acting/substantial ranks for readers not familiar with military terminology.
      • Linked to Military rank#Types of rank.
    • Robertson was finally breveted as a lieutenant colonel in June 1936. Why "finally" and how did he get past major, which a few paragraphs above was the highest rank he could hope to attain.
    • Probably worth including the abbreviation KBE, since some readers may be familiar with the initial, but not the full title and because we have the post-nominal "KBE" in the lead
    • fired off seems very informal for an encyclopaedia
    • Why do you have a hyperlink to The Metropolitan Golf Club?
    • It moves very abruptly from being chairman of a golf club to his death
    • Inconsistent full stops in the refs section. Since the full stops are part of {{London Gazette}}, it would probably be easier (if tedious) to add them to the non-template refs
  • A very nice article on an officer with a very interesting career. I look forward to supporting once the above issues are sorted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support per standard disclaimer. Very little was left for me to do; good job everyone. - Dank (push to talk) 04:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I've read over it once and looks very good. Only one point: did he have any children? I might of missed it but I don't think any off spring are mentioned. Anotherclown (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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