Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration/Poll on Ireland article names/Position statements/RTG
 | The following statement was prepared as part of the poll on Ireland article names. It may contain unsupported statements, synthesis of published sources, original research and personal interpretation of policy and guidelines. This statement was prepared by: |
 | This page in a nutshell: The only acceptable case where Ireland is merely the southern state is if the Irish were pushed south of the border during invasion. The opposite is the case and far from injecting a load of English into the country they injected a load of Celts who were convinced to support them. Nobody is perfect. Honesty is usually the best policy. I see no harm in accepting the fact that Ireland is more than the state of the south. I know an important part of Ireland which is not part of the state in the south. I would have no problem with it being a part of the state in the south. I could understand that the first paragraph in the article doesn't list all the islands claimed by the state but the north is Irish only because it is in Ireland and that has nothing to do with state or politics except when showing satisfaction/dissatisfaction. When I was a bit smaller I had a few coversations about wether or not the north is in England. Here we have (in part) the debate on wether Ireland is nothing more than the 26 county state. It reminds me of the conversation "Was that game one nil or one all?" Ireland is an island not a scoreline. All other things pertaining to Ireland are Irish. Even at the top of that list is secondary to Ireland no matter if you prefer or not to be Irish or if you want to wish really hard that the state was Ireland because you feel alienated from or unfamiliar with the north. |