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Q821

Who was dismissed on his 25th birthday in a Test match for a duck, and was so disconsolate as he trudged off, head down, that he missed the pavilion gate by 20 yards and had to walk back around the boundary to reach it? Johnlp (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Peter May on the first morning of his first Test at the gigantic MCG seems to tick all the boxes. --Travis Basevi (talk) 03:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

That's the one. Well done. Over to you. Johnlp (talk) 05:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Q822

Based on the list in the latest Wisden, what would be the related high scores here? Moin Khan, Sadagoppan Ramesh, Saeed Anwar, VVS Laxman, Colin McDonald, Andrew Strauss. --Travis Basevi (talk) 11:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Did they make their highest scores despite being retired hurt or needing a runner during that innings? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 11:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope, nearly all of the instances aren't even their personal bests. --Travis Basevi (talk)

Anything to do with percentage of runs scored? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 13:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

No. A vague clue is that it's impossible to be definitive about the "list" in question, hence me having to reference Wisden as the source. --Travis Basevi (talk) 14:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Better clue: Not so easy to state what the equivalent list of best bowling is, but it includes Javagal Srinath, Saqlain Mushtaq, Garry Sobers and Shane Warne. --Travis Basevi (talk) 21:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Mostly I am off target,but I noticed that when each off the above batsmen made their maiden century,there were multiple centurions in the match.Is it related to that? Sumant81 (talk) 09:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

(clutches at straws blowing past) Are the "related high scores" those of another batsman who made a century or pehaps even a record score in the same match that these guys got their highest or maiden centuries? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 10:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No clue, so doing a bit of what Andrew Symonds did today. It seems to have something to with a subjective list put out by Wisden. Like the 100 top batting & bowling performances. I don't think this particular list appears in every Wisden and not sure what else does. Colin Macdonald rings a bell as the top scorer in both innings in Laker's Test. Fishing on the same lines, Saeed Anwar top scored in Kumble's 10WI. But have no clue how to take it from there. Am I anywhere in the right area Tintin 18:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No one's even warm. It's not subjective, just impossible to be accurate because of a certain venue. The first four batting instances are in the same match, then McDonald's was obviously a lot earlier, and Strauss was in a series already lost. --Travis Basevi (talk) 10:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Running out of clues here. The first match was in an eagerly awaited and overdue set of Tests, the second was the climax of one of the great series that grabbed the public's imagination, and the third was in an eagerly awaited chance for redemption after another one of the alltime great series. What's the pattern? --Travis Basevi (talk) 09:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

People being stumped? WillE, JohnLP, Blackjack, Stephen Turner.... WillE (talk) 17:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Career ending innings? WillE (talk) 17:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Surprised this still hasn't gone. The list only involves two grounds, and whilst Wisden only supplies the top 6, I'd say that the top 20 or even 50 would still only involve two grounds. I'll be resorting to charades if this clue doesn't help. --Travis Basevi (talk) 18:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Are the grounds Eden Gardens and MCG? Johnlp (talk) 21:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's a big help to somebody, the first one match (involving the Pakistan/India players) is one of these three in the 1998/99 series but I can't spot the connection.–MDCollins (talk) 21:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it's beaten me. How many words, Travis??? WillE (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Right - the first one, Khan (70), Ramesh (79), Anwar (188) and Laxman (67) were the top scores in each innings of this match in which Srinath took 13-132, the best bowling at Eden Gardens. Macdonald was top scorer in both innings (89, 32) of Laker's match at Old Trafford, the best bowling figures there. Strauss was top scorer (60, 106) in both innings v NZ at Old Trafford.

I believe I have listed the highest scores referred to in the question, not sure about the related bit to Strauss.–MDCollins (talk) 22:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Anything to do with attendances? Highest scores in front of crowds verified at 100,000 and more? Johnlp (talk) 22:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

In which case it will be Strauss (50, 31) and McDonald (51 and 133) at the MCG. And as it's not an exhaustive list, Peter Richardson (68) and Colin Cowdrey (54) in the McDonald match and Andrew Symonds (156) in the 2006 Boxing Day Test.–MDCollins (talk) 23:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hooray, I'll give it to Johnlp. According to Wisden, they're the top scorers on each of the six largest single day attendances in Test cricket. They have the first four days (coincidentally closely aligning with the four innings) of the 98/99 Calcutta Test all estimated at 100k, then the second day of the 1960/61 Aus v WI 5th Test (90.8k) where McDonald made 91, then the first day of the last Melbourne Ashes Test (89154 plus me) where Strauss was the top scorer that day with an even 50. I'd have thought there would be more Eden Gardens days in there, but that's their list. --Travis Basevi (talk) 00:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Q823

"My job brings me into touch with a great number of Horstralians, New Zealanders, 'Ottentots and what have you, and they've all got one thing in common — give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile. Now I'm not complaining, it's 'uman nature after all to grab what you can, but I've got to find a way to stop 'em. Otherwise we living here in old England aren't going to have two ha'pennies to rub together." Who, allegedly, said this to whom, and what was the upshot? Johnlp (talk) 06:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Mercy!! Ovshake (talk) 08:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Is this related to "you can call us whatever you like as long as we get half the gate receipts"?164.36.38.241 (talk) 11:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sorry about the intemperate language. But this is reportedly how that individual spoke (or 'ow that individual spoke). And no, the financial aspect is a bit irrelevant: it's more about the cricketing consequence. Johnlp (talk) 13:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Taking a blind leap .. was it told to Hawke or Harris ? Tintin 14:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

No, neither of them. But in terms of hauteur, you're close to the right level. Johnlp (talk) 14:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Larwood talking to Jardine or Warner, is it? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

One of the three names you've put here is correct for half of the first part of the question. Should I tell you which one? I don't think so. Not yet, anyway. ;-) Johnlp (talk) 16:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

From those three, it would have to be Larwood. Can't imagine Plum or Duggers ever using language of that ilk. WillE (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

So is the statement related to the 1932-33 tour? Indeed, was leg theory the upshot of this man's comments? I'll also chuck Fender's name into the mix for good measure. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 18:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but Larwood was a poor choice out of the three. The speaker was not a cricketer but a "high ranking" English person. The hearer was one of the two remaining names, who then did what the speaker wanted. And the whole thing is probably somewhere in the realms of... Well, I did use the words "allegedly" and "reportedly", so you really don't have to believe any of it. But 1932-33 is good. Johnlp (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Jardine was the listener and bodyline the upshot, then. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 20:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Jardine is right, but bodyline was only the upshot after something else happened. The speaker probably needs a clue: he was a non-cricketing person whose political career ended four years later when he let slip government budget secrets to some stockmarket speculators. You're pretty close: can you identify the source? Johnlp (talk) 20:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's surely Jimmy Thomas?WillE (talk) 22:25, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Right. So J. H. Thomas, Her Majesty's Secretary of State for Dominion and Colonial Affairs, persuades Douglas Jardine... to do what? It's 1-1 between BlackJack and WillE and this is the tiebreak (but I'd probably give it to whoever identifies where all this claptrap comes from). Johnlp (talk) 07:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it to do with the origin of Jardine's evident prejudice against "colonials" and Aussies in particular: i.e., did Jardine take Thomas at his word? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I think it's time to move on and award it to BlackJack, who identified it as Jardine and the Bodyline controversy. In fact, this is a "conversation" between Jimmy Thomas and Jardine in which Thomas persuades a reluctant Jardine to take over the captaincy for the 1932-33 tour. It comes, of course, from Bodyline, The Novel by Paul Wheeler, the book that led to the film... so is almost certainly entirely imaginary. Over to you, BJ. Johnlp (talk) 09:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Q824

Which player was the cause of this exchange between an umpire and a certain Lord?

• "When are you umpires going to do something about this?"
• "My Lord, we are going to do nothing. It is you gentlemen who have got to do it."

BlackJack | ^{talk page} 15:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was Lord Harris to Bob Thoms. I will guess that the player was either John Crossland or his bowling partner Nash of Lancashire in the 1870s/80s. --KingStrato (talk) 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. According to Derek Birley, it was Crossland who caused the controversy but he mentions Nash as a second suspect. All yours. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 17:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

What was the controversy and the context of the conversation? Sumant81 (talk) 04:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Lord Harris was on a crusade against throwing. He lobbied the Kent board to refuse to play Lancashire until they got rid of their chuckers. --KingStrato (talk) 07:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

That's quite an important piece of cricket history. I must try to put something in Lord Harris's Wiki article about it. JH (talk page) 09:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Q825

What, uniquely, happened to Graham Thorpe in 2004? --KingStrato (talk) 07:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Can't see anything earth-shattering. Is it entirely cricket-related, or is his turbulent personal life during that period somehow relevant? Ovshake (talk) 08:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

It's entirely cricket related. Note that it "happened" to him rather than it was something that he did. --KingStrato (talk) 09:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, that's why I asked that question. Ovshake (talk) 09:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Does it involve sustaining an injury in freak circumstances? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 09:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

No. --KingStrato (talk) 09:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

First Englishman to ever play more than 10 Tests in a year and not have a loss? Actually I might as well have guessed he was the first to play more than 2 tests in a year without a loss! Seriously I think it could be most times at the wicket at the end of a match... 4 times running the winning runs, twice holding out for a draw and twice in the field when the last wicket fell. In the other 4 games he didn't get out of the pavilion before the game was won. The-Pope (talk) 12:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've not checked these out, but they're not the answer that I'm looking for. I'll drop in a clue in a couple of hours if we've not moved on. --KingStrato (talk) 15:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, first clue. It has happened to 120 players, but Thorpe is the only one that it's happened to twice. The second time in 2004. --KingStrato (talk) 17:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

A total guess: played in a Test in every month of a calendar year? JH (talk page) 18:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, second clue. There is a related list of 10 players, only 1 player appears on the second list twice, and 2 players appear on both lists a single time. --KingStrato (talk) 06:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Still nowhere. Can you emphasise on the hints instead of the number of players involved in the hints (given that the number of players is something like 120)? Ovshake (talk) 07:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hit wicket, perhaps? Is he the only one to hit his wicket twice in Test cricket? If not, anything to do with dismissal in general? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Denis Compton was out hit wicket loads of times. Ovshake (talk) 10:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm realising that this is not a great question. Another (hopefully final) hint is that the 2 players who are on both lists are Don Bradman and Wally Hammond. The player featuring on the shorter list twice is Brian Lara. --KingStrato (talk) 16:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Anything to do with big scores in losing runchases?

You're half right, it has something to do with big scores, but not in losing run chases. --KingStrato (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Something to do with making a big score when your teammates make bugger all? Thorpe has this excellent ton in 2004 when no one else made over 20, which follows up his earlier one in 2001 when no one made over 30. Can't find a connection with the rest of the clues though... --Travis Basevi (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

No, you're going away again. Remember that it's not something that Thorpe did. You've almost got the right match though, try looking at the one after it. --KingStrato (talk) 06:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

The next match was Lara's 400 match. Is this about fielding against very high scores? Ovshake (talk) 07:37, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Thorpe fielded during Lara's 400. Going back to this being the second time... --KingStrato (talk) 07:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay The 120 players are the players who have seen the highest individual innings in test cricket.So there are 11 players(11*11 =121 players who have seen it but -1 for thorpe who has seen it twice..therefore 120) who have held the highest score record .Graham Thorpe was there in 375 and 400* when Lara made the record.So he is the only one to see the batting record being made twice.Sumant81 (talk) 08:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Correct. Nobody else has been on the receiving end of the test batting record twice (although Nasser Hussain played in the 400 and was 12th man during the 375). Just a slight correction to your answer though, 10 players have held the record, Lara holding it twice. --KingStrato (talk) 08:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

This is actually a very good question. I must've sounded like a moron to you when I asked not to emphasise on the number of players, when the numbers were hints themselves. Ovshake (talk) 09:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't Ulyett also count having played against Bannerman's 165 and then Murdoch's 211 7 years later? Good question though, I'm certainly not implying this threw me off the scent. --Travis Basevi (talk) 12:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

No, he doesn't count because... er... Well, mainly because I managed to miss him when researching the question. Oh well, I must confess I found it odd that there were no survivors from Tests 1 to 16, now I know that someone managed it. --KingStrato (talk) 13:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Q826

Harbhajan Singh ,Saqlain Mushtaq,Mervyn Dillon , ________,Colin Croft,Andre Nel,________,Shivlal Yadav,Nicky Boje,Irfan Pathan Complete the missing 2 names in the list Sumant81 (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hint 1 - These are a list of people who have not done a certain something having met a certain criteria.The 2 missing blanks are cricketers from the same country. Sumant81 (talk) 02:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it to do with qualification to play for another country? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

No nothing to do with qualification ,entirely related to cricket performances only Sumant81 (talk) 07:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Time for another hint:The above list expectedly has no England players. Sumant81 (talk) 16:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it to do with being dropped then selected again? WillE (talk) 19:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering if the clue (and that word "expectedly") implies that the question involves performances specifically against England. JH (talk page) 20:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

You are warm,thinking in the right area,The English player who would make the list if I lower the criteria would be Frank Tyson Sumant81 (talk) 01:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Tyson's career ended prematurely and he emigrated to Australia. Is this something to do with awards or some other special invitation that the people did not accept because it would involve a long flight (back) to England? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

No ,It is to do with certain performances on the field only.Let me ease the question a bit.The criteria is 100 wickets minimum.Frank Tyson is the highest amongst the rest of England players ,but he did not make it because he missed the 100 wickets minimum cut.So to rephrase the question,these are the only players with 100 wickets to not do what ? The 2 missing entries in the list are from Australia. Sumant81 (talk) 06:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Take 5wI in England? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Harbhajan Singh has a 5wI at Oval. You are getting closer with the in England part though :) Sumant81 (talk) 07:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Harbhajan played only in the last three Tests of the 2002 series :-) Tintin 07:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

And Tintin has given away the biggest hint ... Sumant81 (talk) 08:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Can't piece together the exact answer, but I know Bruce Reid and Stuart MacGill never took a wicket in England, so judging from the clues, I'll have a guess those are the missing names. --Travis Basevi (talk) 14:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Bruce Reid is indeed one of the missing blanks ,Unfortunately I have missed out on Stuart MacGill (and I certainly hope he is the only one that I missed) when I framed the question.He was not the one I was thinking about ,but there is definitely one more Australian who fits the answer.As I said the in England part is close but not the answer,it can be pruned more .think about Tintin's answer above . Sumant81 (talk) 15:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

This feels like cheating as I still have no idea what the theme is, but I bet Bruce Yardley is the other blank then. MacGill, Dillion, Yardley, Reid, Yadav, Pathan and Boje are only players with 100+ Test wickets and 0 in England. --Travis Basevi (talk) 17:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

If that's the case, where do Harbhajan and Tyson fit into it? --KingStrato (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Judging by the phrase "it can be pruned more"... I'll guess the link is took 100 wickets, but never took one at Lord's. -AMBerry (t|c) 19:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes thats the one ,Bruce Yardley is indeed the other one ,and the link is infact 100+ wickets but never one at Lord's .Harbhajan Singh has wickets elsewhere but Lord's and Frank Tyson is the highest among England bowlers with none at Lord's .Now who to hand it over, hmm..As Travis Basevi did all the hard yards I will hand it over to him ,sorry about that AMBerry Sumant81 (talk) 02:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Q827

What do these players having in common (it's a complete list)? Percy McDonnell, Plum Warner, Don Bradman, Harry Cave, Stuart Carlisle, Tatenda Taibu, Younis Khan, Daren Ganga. --Travis Basevi (talk) 05:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

They all scored a duck on their captaincy debut ? Sumant81 (talk) 06:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

In a blatant attempt to steal, they also all scored ducks on their last appearance as captain. --KingStrato (talk) 06:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hail to the thief. Have to give it to KingStrato I'm afraid. It's the full set of players who scored a duck in their first and last Test as captain. Nice one, didn't think this would go so quickly. --Travis Basevi (talk) 11:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Q828

What links the following: The Ashes, Robert Croft, P.T. Barnum, and Longleat? --KingStrato (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I really hope it's The Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies, which hangs at Longleat, but I fear that's a long shot. --Roisterer (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I really wish that was the answer. It's so much better than the real one. Could you explain how you think Robert Croft links to the Fallen Madonna?  :)

Anyway, hints. The connection also links to a UK energy company, and the link to The Ashes involves an upcoming international debut. --KingStrato (talk) 06:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

That must be SWALEC and the ground in Cardiff. Croft plays for Glamorgan. Has he advertised on behalf of the Cardiff Test and does SWALEC sponsor Longleat and circuses?  :-) Or do they sponsor TV programmes about Barnum and Longleat (there is a current wildlife show about Longleat presented by Kate Humble)? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll give you three quarters of a point for that, the link is indeed the SWALEC Stadium, home of Glamorgan, in Cardiff. Robert Croft plays home games there and it will host the first Ashes test there next year. The first test match to be played in Cardiff. For the rest of the point you need to get the link to Barnum and Longleat. It might be worth looking at a popular cricket website to get a bit of history on the ground. --KingStrato (talk) 07:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Ripping from the popular cricket website , Sophia Gardens was earlier name of SWALEC that hosted the Barnum Circus .Sophia was the wife of the Marquees of Bute and Longleat House is the seat for Marquees of Bath.Somehow these 2 similar sounding Marquees are connected but I am not sure how. Sumant81 (talk) 07:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

That's a point. Have you confused Marquess of Bath with Marquess of Bute? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Are we looking at the same page? This one[1] seems to suggest that it's the Marquees of Bath's wife that Sofia Gardens is named after. But that's the connection anyway. Despite Sumant's efforts I think I will award this one to BlackJack. --KingStrato (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh ,My initial feeling is that above link contains incorrect information,I was looking at this page[2] and the glamorgan cricket page .It suggests Marquess of Bute and the wikipedia entry for Marquess of Bute relates to Cardiff Sumant81 (talk) 17:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I also think the Cricinfo page is wrong. Bute would make more sense. The point still goes to BlackJack though :) --KingStrato (talk) 17:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Q829

What did Burke, deLacy, Flockton, Grout, Howard, Iverson, Jackson, Langdon, Loxton, McCool, Meulemann, Moroney, Thoms, Tribe, Trueman and Walker all have in common? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 17:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

They're all in alphabetical order. Right, Q830... --Travis Basevi (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, you're not wrong, though I wonder if de Lacy should be under L rather than D? They all have the same nationality too and that is a minor hint. Trueman is not Fred, by the way. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Geoffrey Trueman seems an incredibly lucky bloke or an extraordinarily good wicketkeeper to have played 24 first-class matches with a batting average of below 8. Ovshake (talk) 06:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Are they all wicket keepers? --KingStrato (talk) 06:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

How about keepers who played with or against the Don :) Sumant81 (talk) 07:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No, Wally Grout and Geoff Trueman are the only keepers among the 16 man squad (hint). BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Selected for a tour that was cancelled? *Clutches at nearest straw* 164.36.38.241 (talk) 11:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Getting warmer but still some way to go. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

They weren't the squad for that tour of NZ by effectively an Australian "A" team in the 1950s, when no Tests were played? JH (talk page) 17:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No. They were not an A team (or a Test team, obviously enough) and NZ was not their intended destination. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 17:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Most of them, perhaps all, played Lancashire League cricket at some point in the 10-15 years after the Second World War? Johnlp (talk) 19:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No. You need to concentrate on the squad hint. To help you a little bit more, the organisers had a proposed destination and these players were selected subject to availability, etc. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 09:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, looking through the book One Test, and in particular the articles on Mueleman and Thoms, Thoms said he was going to be picked in a tour team of England that never went ahead, while Mueleman played for a Commonwealth team in India with anumber of others mentioned but no connecting thread. I'll take a guess and say they were selected in an Australian tour of India. --Roisterer (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You're getting much closer now. They were selected for a proposed Australian team to tour India in 1953-54 but who proposed the tour on behalf of whom and why didn't it go ahead? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Apparently there was a Commonwealth side that toured that season. Is that relevant? Ovshake (talk) 13:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Is this one of those George Duckworth schemes, a few of which actually worked? Johnlp (talk) 13:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

No, the Commonwealth tour was separate and nothing to do with George Duckworth. The central figure was a former Test umpire. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

No more? I'm going to award this to Roisterer who has got the essence of the answer. Those of you who have Chris Harte's History of Australian Cricket can read the story there on p.427-428. Former Test umpire Andrew Barlow, acting for the BCCI, signed the above players for what amounted to a "rebel tour" of India. This came about because of the reluctance of the Australian Board of Control to promote an official tour of India. Barlow approached Bill Jeanes of the ABC with the details and the BCCI wrote to Jeanes politely requesting official approval. Then it all got political and the ABC refused to give their approval, so the project died a death. Subsequently, the ABC did give permission (reluctantly, says Harte) for Loxton, Meulemann and Iverson to join the Commonwealth team mentioned above. It was an episode that cast the ABC in a very poor light, especially as the BCCI were going to pay all the costs and expenses.

Over to Roisterer for Q830. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 05:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Q830

According to Plum Warner, who was "the first cricketing Bolshevik"? --Roisterer (talk) 05:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Frank Worrell? --KingStrato (talk) 07:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A couple of guesses: Syd Barnes or Douglas Jardine? JH (talk page) 07:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

My immediate thought was Barnes. What about Harris or Hawke, though?  :-) BlackJack | ^{talk page} 10:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

James Seymour? Johnlp (talk) 11:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

None of the above. Certainly prior to Worrell's time.

Did Warner write this in one of his books or in a newspaper article; or has he been quoted? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 20:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thinking outside the box for a moment, is it Lenin? --KingStrato (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Lenin. Warner was referring to an English Test cricketer of the 1920s. I'm at work so I don't have my reference in front of me but I believe it was in an article he wrote. --Roisterer (talk) 00:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Could the cricketer have been Charlie Parker, renowned for being an awkward cuss? JH (talk page) 09:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I hope so. Made me laugh when I read your suggestion!!! 164.36.38.241 (talk) 11:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

To clarify, that's Charlie Parker the taker of over 3,000 first-class wickets, not the jazz musician! JH (talk page) 17:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Charlie Parker but you've got the initials correct. --Roisterer (talk) 23:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Has to be Cecil Parkin Sumant81 (talk) 03:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Aha! Yes, Cec Parkin was the bolshevik Warner railed against. You may be wondering what Parkin did to earn the bolshevik tag. Did he, perhaps, storm Buckingham Palace, slaughter the royal family and declare a Workers Soviet? Much, much more scandalous, I'm afraid. The pro Parkin publicly criticised his amateur captain Arthur Gilligan for not bowling him at a critical moment of a Test match. --Roisterer (talk) 03:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

But the real Bolshie among the pros was Barnes, no doubt about it. When the England team was caught in a storm on the Tasman Sea and prayers began to be said, skipper Archie MacLaren was heard to say: "Well, there's one consolation. If we go down, that bugger Barnes will go down with us." BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

That was going to be my next question! --Roisterer (talk) 10:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Q831

The objective of this magazine is to portray the people of the area as fashionable,trendy and successful.On its very first issue,the magazine portrayed a cricketer on its front cover along with his wife.The magazine also has a separate sports edition ,which is headed by a former cricketer. The fact that a cricketer was a cover photo on a lifestyle magazine could be related to the fact that the sports editor's wife heads the magazine.

Identify the cricketer who heads the sports edition of the magazine Sumant81 (talk) 10:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hint 1: The area is Caribbean Sumant81 (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Would it be BUZZZ magazine, published in Jamaica, which is a lifestyle mag with a sports section? I would guess Jimmy Adams. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:20, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

No not the BUZZZ , the magazine does really have a separate sports edition .Shivnarine Chanderpaul and his wife were featured on the first edition of the lifestyle magazine .If it helps the cricketer behind the magazine was more famous in ODIs in the recent past Sumant81 (talk) 01:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Another hint: He was a West Indian Player as well!! Sumant81 (talk) 07:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ricardo Powell ? He is the sports editor of Basia Sports Magazine [3], and the executive editor of Basia is his wife Alicia [4]. Shiv Chanderpaul and his wife Amy featured on the first issue [5] of Basia. OrangeKnight (talk) 08:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep Ricardo Powell is the cricketer in Question.Soon after retirement ,(ironically when he was still good enough),he went ahead and started the magazine as a competitor to the leading magazine in Caribbean ,Ebony. Over to the OrangeKnight. Sumant81 (talk) 11:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Q832

OK, let's go. This one shouldn't last to much. Complete this list : Johnny Douglas, Naimur Rahman, C. K. Nayudu, Freddie Calthorpe, ________, ________, ________. OrangeKnight (talk) 12:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

James Lillywhite, Aubrey Smith, Henry Taberer. The set of players who both captained their team and took a wicket on Test debut. --Travis Basevi (talk) 13:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Is the fact so famous ? Nevermind, up to you. 18 minutes. OrangeKnight (talk) 13:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Not at all. Just saw the pattern in their Wikipedia profiles of either captaining on debut or captaining all Tests they played and took it from there. Took me a little while, I must have chanced upon it almost as soon as you posted it. --Travis Basevi (talk) 16:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Q833

What remarkable playing condition has passed without comment on this Demerara v Barbados 1871/72 scorecard? --Travis Basevi (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Is it the first ever "Retired Hurt" on a scorecard? Failing that is it the first time Barbados beat a bag of sugar? --KingStrato (talk) 16:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Definitely not the first guess (and that wouldn't really be classed as "remarkable" anyway - it's been commonplace for as long as I know), and I'll need to check the second guess. --Travis Basevi (talk) 16:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

There is a full substitute that has been effected,however that is commented upon in the scorecard.So not sure if that is the answer Sumant81 (talk) 16:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

And neither is that really remarkable. There is a clue in the scorecard though. --Travis Basevi (talk) 16:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The bowling figures look decidedly odd, with a plethora of seemingly uncompleted 5 ball overs. At this period, 4 ball overs would have been the norm. I'm wondering if (a) this was the first f-c match to use 5 ball overs, but the scorers got confused and showed some completed overs as being incomplete or (b) it was the first match to use 6 ball overs but again the scorers and/or umpires got confused, or even (c) 6-ball overs were bowled at one end and 5-ball overs at the other (or 5 and 4)! JH (talk page) 17:31, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

You're close enough for me with (c). According to this list from the ACS, 5 ball overs were the norm in WI at the time, but this match has "Barbados 6 balls, Demarera 5 balls". I'm not too sure what the boffins at Cricket Archive have done with the scorecard though, every innings has a bowler with 0.5 of an uncompleted over even though at the top it says "Balls per over 5". --Travis Basevi (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Q834

I'm hurriedly changing my question, as it turns out that the answer to my original one would have been easier to find on Wikipedia that I had at first thought. Who wrote about whom: "This stalwart... undoubtedly played the leading part in the downfall of Australia. He was the great rock and standby of his side and one of the most tireless workers with muscle and brain that this or any other English team of cricketers has ever possessed." JH (talk page) 20:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Flintoff in 2005? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

No. You need to go a good way further back than that. I think that the questiojn is probably quite a difficult one, so I may have to give more clues later on. JH (talk page) 09:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Is this CB Fry on Johnny Briggs? Johnlp (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Is the player Tom Richardson, who was often praised as a team man for being a stalwart and a tireless worker? If so, I'd guess the writer is Neville Cardus, or perhaps Plum Warner. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 13:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

No to all the above. The writer was an Australian, who some twenty years prior to writing that had been a distinguished captain of his country. He may have gone a little OTT in his rating of the player, but not by that much. JH (talk page) 18:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like the captain should be Benaud. And the player? Maybe Bailey? Johnlp (talk) 21:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

At the time of writing, was he describing a series just completed or was he writing a historical piece? Could it be Woodfull writing about Tyson? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 06:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

He was writing about a series just completed. None of the names suggested so far are correct. Another clue: the player being written about was a spin bowler. JH (talk page) 09:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Johnson on Laker? Ovshake (talk) 09:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Laker is surely the only possible answer for an English spin bowler winning a series against Australia. But the 20 year clue would make the writer Vic Richardson (v SA 1935/36) or Bradman, although the latter has too wide a captaincy span which makes "20 years" sound a bit random. --Travis Basevi (talk) 13:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Could be Ray Illingworth in 1970-71. In which case the writer may be Lindsay Hassett. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Laker or Illingworth. Time for another clue, I think. I omitted a word from the quotation that immediately followed "stalwart", as indicated by the three dots, because it would have given the game away. It was a hyphenated word, the second part being "cricketer". The revealing part is the word before the hyphen, which begins with "f".

The only footballer-cricketer that might fit is Alfred Lyttelton, in which case the writer could be Billy Murdoch. Johnlp (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

The f-word isn't "footballer". JH (talk page) 19:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing the spinner is Rachael Heyhoe-Flint and the references to "he" and "him" are red herrings. --KingStrato (talk) 19:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid that your guess is wrong. Both the player and the person writing about him are male. JH (talk page) 20:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Australian writing about a winning Englishman. It isn't THE f-word, is it?  :-) BlackJack | ^{talk page} 07:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Is the writer referring to a fat cricketer? If so, is it Eddie Hemmings he is referring to? Jonesy (talk) 07:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they were playing french cricket! Stephen Turner (Talk) 08:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

A little bit of lateral thinking now but is it a "former cricketer" who either came out of retirement or played a significant role as manager, coach, bagman, scorer, whatever? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Or did the bargain buy in his fantasy team come up trumps? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Feline-cricketer? Tufnell! So the writer was one of Ian or Greg Chappell. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 08:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Nobody's hit on the correct f-word yet. It was the player's occupation when not playing cricket. JH (talk page) 08:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Jack White (cricketer) the farmer or Phil Edmonds the finance expert? Ovshake (talk) 09:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Jack "Farmer" White was the player. Well done! It now should be fairly easy to guess who the writer was. JH (talk page) 09:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Monty Noble? --Roisterer (talk) 10:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Monty Noble was the writer. You and Ovshake both have a claim to set the next question, but I'm inclined to award it to Ovshake for having answered the harder part of the question. The series being written about was that of 1928-9, which England won 4-1. I found the quatation in "The Cricket Captains of England" by Alan Gibson. JH (talk page) 17:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I too think Ovshake is the man to ask the next question. --Roisterer (talk) 05:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Q835

24 hour rule applies so here's one to tide things over. Harry Altham waxed lyrical about cricket's Augustan Age as he called it and focused on the merits of three batsmen in particular. Two, as you might expect, were K S Ranjitsinhji and Victor Trumper. Who was the third? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 10:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hutchings? Or Palairet? Johnlp (talk) 12:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

No, neither of those, I'm afraid, though obviously you're in the right timeframe. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 12:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

C B Fry? Moondyne 12:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

No, though I'm surprised he wasn't in the three. I'll give you a hint which is around the word "focused": Altham placed photos of these three players on an illustrative page that was captioned "The Augustan Age". There is a photo of Fry in a different group. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 13:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

For no particular reason, how about Johnny Tyldesley? Moondyne 14:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Johnny Tyldesley, although he would deserve it. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 18:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Assuming that the third batsman would be most likely to be an Englishman, two very augusat possibilities would be AC MacLaren and FS Jackson (though one might describe Jackson as an all-rounder). If the third player was a professional, then Tom Hayward would be a possibility. If the choices of Ranji and Trumper suggest that elegance was the main criterion, then Reggie Spooner would be a possibility. However my giving the name of alomst every leading batsman of the period isn't really a very satisfactory method of answering the question. JH (talk page) 16:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

One of these four is the right answer. One guess each until someone wins.  :-) BlackJack | ^{talk page} 18:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I eventually did the obvious, and looked at the list of illustrations in Altham's History of Cricket. The answer is Tom Hayward. JH (talk page) 19:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Correct! Over to you for Q835. BlackJack | ^{talk page} 19:34, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Or 836, even! I'll correct the section header. JH (talk page) 19:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Q836

What has happened five times since World War Two but with no instance more recent than 1960? JH (talk page) 19:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, one thing that happened in 1960 was that a first-class match was over in a single day. Kent v Worcs, if I remember rightly. Johnlp (talk) 19:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

That was quick! 12 minutes, I make it. I got the question from Wisden's list of f-c matches finished on the first day. Over to you. JH (talk page) 20:07, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Q837

Which Test cricketer trained, before taking up the game professionally, as a handmade surgical shoemaker? Johnlp (talk) 20:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Gosh, it's gone quiet. Johnlp (talk) 18:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

RANJI HORDERN? WillE (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I was tempted to point out that very few shoemakers are handmade, but managed to restrain myself until now. :) JH (talk page) 19:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Ho ho. Actually I'm quoting something that he probably wrote himself! And no, not Hordern. Boots and shoes are a speciality of this chap's region... Johnlp (talk) 20:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In that case, did he perhaps play for Northamptonshire? JH (talk page) 20:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Johnlp (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

This question is a load of old cobblers. --KingStrato (talk) 20:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC) (Taxi for Strato)

I've got something niggling at the back of my mind suggesting that it might be Frank Tyson, though a Google search hasn't thrown up anything to support that. JH (talk page) 20:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Not Tyson. Johnlp (talk) 20:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Colin Milburn? WillE (talk) 21:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

No, not him either, but you are heading chronologically in the right direction. Johnlp (talk) 21:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

David Steele? It sounds like just the sort of job that he might have had. JH (talk page) 09:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

No, not Steele. More recent... Johnlp (talk) 11:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Wayne Larkins? Ovshake (talk) 13:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Even more recent than him. Johnlp (talk) 13:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Monty Panesar? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 16:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

But not as recent as that. Oh dear, it sounds like I've stumbled across a forgotten man of cricket! Actually, not to mislead, this chap's Test career ended before Larkins', but he is quite a bit younger. Johnlp (talk) 17:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

David Capel? -AMBerry (t|c) 17:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hurrah! David Capel it is. It's in his entry in the 1990 edition of the Who's Who of Cricketers, which is, I think, mostly self-penned by the cricketers themselves. Over to you, AMB. Johnlp (talk) 17:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Q838

Desperately scraping around for a question, I'll offer up this:

Who said the following: "Chappell was a coward. He needed a crowd around him before he would say anything. He was sour like milk that had been sitting in the sun for a week"? -AMBerry (t|c) 21:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ian Botham --Cowboydan78 (talk) 22:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Aye, that'd be the one. Over to you. -AMBerry (t|c) 22:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Q839

What links the following team: Michael Atherton, Andrew Strauss, Rahul Dravid, Nasser Hussain, Ashwell Prince, Craig McMillan / Heshan Tillakaratne, Mark Boucher, Mark Boucher / Upul Chandana / David Richardson, Ashley Giles, Steve Harmison, Chris Martin / Courtney Walsh. --Cowboydan78 (talk) 23:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

This is Shane Warne Victims who have been dismissed max number of times at positions 1 to 11.Amongst the number 1 batsman Michael Atherton leads the list ,amongst the number 2,Andrew Strauss leads the list and so on.Sumant81 (talk) 04:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

correct! A couple of ties in there for a few positions. Over to you... --Cowboydan78 (talk) 13:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Q840

Which obscure cricketer completes the list.The list ends off with .....Paul Sheahan,Brendan Nash,Azhar Saeed,Devang Gandhi,________ ? Sumant81 (talk) 20:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Clues needed, I think. I remember watching Sheahan who was noted for his athletic fielding in a day when fielding was something you did if the ball came straight at you (unlike now when you just get yourself injured for the rest of the season, unfit English players especially). Did these guys all do something exceptional as fielders? BlackJack | ^{talk page} 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

No fielding related list.Well there is not much of ODIs between them ,so looking at their scorecards,should be clue enough to give you what the list is about.Once that is done,it is just more digging through to get the obscure cricketer. Sumant81 (talk) 20:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

More Clues considering the silence. The list is in decreasing order having met a certain criteria.It is ended off by a cricketer from a non-test playing nation.The start of this list would feature Sachin Tendulkar,Sanath Jayasuriya,Inzamam-ul-Haq. Sumant81 (talk) 07:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Seeing there are no attempts ,let me give the obscure cricketer name ;if someone can tell me what the list is ,that should be fine.The blank is Atse Buurman , and some more data Jai Yadav , Leon Johnson would precede Paul Sheahan . Sumant81 (talk) 02:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It is the list of players who had at least 1 century partnership in ODIs - ordered by number of matches played? SeaTurtlesMate (talk) 05:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Close,you are right on the criteria i.e 1 century partnership, But Azhar Saeed has played more odis than the others. Sumant81 (talk) 05:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ordered by runs scored in century partnerships? (Sheahan - 50, Azhar - 32 etc..) SeaTurtlesMate (talk) 07:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok I will give it to you ,it is lowest career runs in ODIs having been involved in a 100 run partnership. Sumant81 (talk) 07:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Er, rule 3? Ovshake (talk) 09:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)