Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/A-class review/Alan Keyes
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The result was pass.
This article received the B-class rating a long time ago and has undergone many changes. I believe the concerns raised in Wikipedia:Peer review/Alan Keyes/archive1 have been addressed. I also updated all the citations, changed them all to citeweb format, checked the facts, removed the "trivia" section, and reorganized things more appropriately. Consensus has been reached that this is NPOV. Considering all this, I believe it is time to upgrade this to A-class in preparation for an eventual submission as a featured article candidate. --Jdcaust 14:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose- for the moment. Article needs WP:PERSONDATA. {{citations needed}} templates need to have citations added, and then the templates should be removed. Third paragraph of intro is a single sentence. Single sentence paragraphs are strongly discouraged. "Maryland Senate campaign 1988 and 1992" paragraph needs citation. All paragraphs should preferably have at least one citation, generally preferring 2 or more. It is preferred that only one kind of link be used. this article uses external links to other sites in the "Media and advocacy" section which could probably be turned into footnotes or links to the appropriate wikipedia pages. Many of these are not major problems, but taken together they're enough to withhold A-Class rating. John Carter 17:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I fixed all of the citations and external links a while back. I've also added a few other citations for other material that could possibly need citations. Next, I plan on fixing the single sentence paragaphs. If I add a bit more to those sections, would that be enough to complete the review and earn an A-class rating? Thanks. --Jdcaust 18:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I have added persondata to the article. --Stormie (talk) 10:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- And I have also added references for the election results in the "Maryland Senate campaign 1988 and 1992" paragraph. --Stormie (talk) 11:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support
OpposeDid he really receive death threats? [1] isn't an acceptable source: note that the site gives wikipedia as its source, so anyone could have inserted it. Linking that to Bloom's book is a leap of logic that doesn't strike me as valid. DrKiernan (talk) 10:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]- Response I just saw your removal of that source and re-cited it with one from the Boston Globe. He did receive death threats. Bloom's book mentions the incident to the letter without actually mentioning Keyes' name. If that's too much of a leap, I can remove it. However, I would like to hear from others on that matter. --Jdcaust (talk) 02:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the changes to the page. The only thing I'm concerned about now is the passage from Bloom's book. The excerpt itself is referenced but there should be a reference for linking the passage in the book to Keyes, who isn't named personally. Who said that Bloom is referring to Keyes? DrKiernan (talk) 08:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I found a source from the Harvard Crimson that gives an overview of a Keyes' Q&A at Harvard. One of the direct quotes is him admitting that he is African American student in Bloom's book. Does this suffice or should I find something else? Thanks. --Jdcaust (talk) 12:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's great. I've inserted the reference and switched to support. DrKiernan (talk) 14:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Good! Thank you for all your constructive criticism. You've definitely helped improve the sourcing and quality of the article. --Jdcaust (talk) 14:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's great. I've inserted the reference and switched to support. DrKiernan (talk) 14:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I found a source from the Harvard Crimson that gives an overview of a Keyes' Q&A at Harvard. One of the direct quotes is him admitting that he is African American student in Bloom's book. Does this suffice or should I find something else? Thanks. --Jdcaust (talk) 12:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the changes to the page. The only thing I'm concerned about now is the passage from Bloom's book. The excerpt itself is referenced but there should be a reference for linking the passage in the book to Keyes, who isn't named personally. Who said that Bloom is referring to Keyes? DrKiernan (talk) 08:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Response I just saw your removal of that source and re-cited it with one from the Boston Globe. He did receive death threats. Bloom's book mentions the incident to the letter without actually mentioning Keyes' name. If that's too much of a leap, I can remove it. However, I would like to hear from others on that matter. --Jdcaust (talk) 02:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Article still contains two single sentence paragraphs, which will almost certainly prevent it reaching FA status, but aren't enough to withhold A status. John Carter (talk) 20:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Since you posted this, I've fixed one of them. I'm going to go read the FA criteria before I make any more edits. DrKiernan and John Carter, thank you both for your help and advice! This has gone a long way in helping me to be a better editor, as well. --Jdcaust (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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