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[edit]00:43:56, 30 January 2023 review of draft by Rix-wikipedar
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I do not understand what sources I have to put to make this draft suitable to stay published. I have added many sources and details.
Rix-wikipedar (talk) 00:43, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Rix-wikipedar, directory listings are not reliable sources for establishing notability. Existence is not enough for an encyclopedia entry. Need independent sources discussing the subject. Check out this this guide for more assistance. Slywriter (talk) 02:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
11:39:02, 30 January 2023 review of submission by Suicasmo
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I have added trustworthy sources (NHK, the public broadcasting of Japan) for this draft.Suicasmo (talk) 11:39, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
15:40:35, 30 January 2023 review of submission by Perumalism
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Annamalai is Tamil nadu state head of BJP the ruling party of India. Since July 2021 Annamalai is featured in 100+ news articles.[1] and I believe the article meets WP:NPOL and WP:GNG.Thank you
Perumalism (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perumalism He is the regional head of a political party, but he does not hold public office. NPOL requires that a person hold public office or have won election to public office(in the one election mentioned he came in second). 331dot (talk) 16:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- So he is "featured" in 100+ articles, or just mentioned? 331dot (talk) 16:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot He was featured in 15+ articles. Significantly covered in 100+ articles.Perumalism (talk) 13:08, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perumalism Please tell what your three best sources are(only three, please). 331dot (talk) 13:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot [2],[3],[4].Perumalism (talk) 13:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perumalism So these three in order are; an announcement of his appointment as the regional party head, an interview with him, and another interview with him discussing his joining of the party. None of these establish notability. Interviews are by definition the person speaking about themselves, and as such not independent; we want to know what others say about him, not what he says about himself. Routine announcements also do not establish notability. We need sources that discuss his significance or influence. If the sources out there are like this, he would not merit an article. This is why a prior article about him was deleted. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot I agree with you. can you please check these source for one last time[5],[6],[7] Thank you Perumalism (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- These sources suggest to me that he could be important or significant down the road, but not that he is already. Wikipedia does not lead, it follows. He must already be significant or influential. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot Ok thanks for your patience Perumalism (talk) 14:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- These sources suggest to me that he could be important or significant down the road, but not that he is already. Wikipedia does not lead, it follows. He must already be significant or influential. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot I agree with you. can you please check these source for one last time[5],[6],[7] Thank you Perumalism (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perumalism So these three in order are; an announcement of his appointment as the regional party head, an interview with him, and another interview with him discussing his joining of the party. None of these establish notability. Interviews are by definition the person speaking about themselves, and as such not independent; we want to know what others say about him, not what he says about himself. Routine announcements also do not establish notability. We need sources that discuss his significance or influence. If the sources out there are like this, he would not merit an article. This is why a prior article about him was deleted. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- 331dot He was featured in 15+ articles. Significantly covered in 100+ articles.Perumalism (talk) 13:08, 31 January 2023 (UTC)