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[edit]02:30:35, 10 November 2021 review of draft by Skybluegroundpink
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"Please help me understand which part is promotional in this article since I have linked every information that needs a reference to make sure that they are all credible and reliable information. If you may specify the parts that seem promotional, please list them. Thank you!"
Skybluegroundpink (talk) 02:30, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Skybluegroundpink: The first few sources are company web sites. See WP:PRIMARY. The sources need to be independent to demonstrate notability. Another editor has been helping clean up the article but it still needs work. The history section shouldn't be bulleted and the sentences shouldn't start Year 2003, etc. But mostly, you need to source everything that's there, with independent, reliable sourcing. TechnoTalk (talk) 03:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
08:11:05, 10 November 2021 review of draft by Lior79
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Lior79 (talk) 08:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
I want to translate to English a Hebrew Wikipedia post. https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%96%D7%9F
I keep getting the English version declined, as I don't have enough cites in footnotes. The problem is that all the references I have are in Hebrew
- Hi Lior79. I'm not sure what makes you say, "The problem is" that your references are in Hebrew. English-language sources are preferred, when available, but Hebrew sources are acceptable. Liorl added two inline, so they appear to understand the correct way to do so (are you and they the same person, or are you connected off-wiki?). And if you're translating the article, you presumably are fluent in Hebrew. So how is Hebrew a problem?
- A few other things to be aware of:
- Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to policies and guidelines set by the community of editors who contribute there, so what is an acceptable article on the Hebrew Wikipedia may not be acceptable on the English Wikipedia, and vice versa.
- For a long time, all general officers were presumed to be notable here, but that changed earlier this year. Now a general must meet WP:BIO to warrant a stand alone article.
- The draft is rather promotional. It reads as if it was written to praise Rosen.
- --Worldbruce (talk) 00:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
09:11:17, 10 November 2021 review of submission by MuratHerbert
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MuratHerbert (talk) 09:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I created a page about a famous international designer, that is more important to the design field than many other designers who have approved Wikipedia pages, who also have fewer references listed. I am wondering why my submission has been denied. I believe it is in error. There are dozens of pages of minor designers who are published on the site, this one is very relevant and one of the most famous in the field.
- MuratHerbert As the reviewer noted, you have not demonstrated tha this person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The sources you have offered do not seem to be significant coverage of the subject.
- Note that others similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too. Please read other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. We can only address what we know about. It could be that these other articles you have seen are also not appropriate; if you'd like to help out, you can point out these other articles, they can be addressed if that's the case, we could use the help. The drafting/submission process has not existed for the entire time Wikipedia has existed, and only new users and IP users are absolutely required to use it(though it is a good idea for all until one gains experience in submission). 331dot (talk) 09:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
10:13:25, 10 November 2021 review of draft by Manu9305
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Hello, my draft has been rejected twice now. Here is the draft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dara_(platform)
Here is the feedback:
This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of websites). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
So with this in mind, could anyone tell me what sort of changes I need to make to it? I've tried my best to bring it in line with guidelines, and in terms of legitimacy, I have used some links to leading Indian news outlets. Furthermore, I see pages that offer far less information such as the page for the platform LucidChart, so I am a bit confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Manu9305 (talk) 10:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Manu9305 Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about the existence of something and what it does. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. The sources you have offered are not significant coverage of this platform- they merely tell of its existence, its features, and when it was released. You should look for at least three independent reliable sources- wholly unconnected with the platform- to summarize. This does not include things like press releases, interviews, brief mentions, announcements of routine activities(like the release of a product) or other primary sources.
- If you are associated with this platform, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 10:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
11:51:45, 10 November 2021 review of submission by Shivansh Singh111
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Shivansh Singh111 (talk) 11:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Shivansh Singh111 You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. That's what social media is for. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about a topic. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
16:29:49, 10 November 2021 review of draft by Ekotkww
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Ekotkww (talk) 16:29, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
I would like some help to restructure this to seem less like a commercial/ad. It is very brief and is meant for people to understand what WeddingWire is as a company!
- @Ekotkww: I started to clean it up a bit. I also renamed XO Group as The Knot Worldwide. Just needs a new logo. TechnoTalk (talk) 03:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
16:56:16, 10 November 2021 review of submission by Lokesh7597
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Lokesh7597 (talk) 16:56, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
17:25:17, 10 November 2021 review of submission by MiCirazoncito
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MiCirazoncito (talk) 17:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- MiCirazoncito You don't ask a question, but see my earlier reply to you. As the draft was rejected, it won't be considered any more. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 10 November 2021 (UTC)