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[edit]17:39:50, 23 June 2017 review of submission by Zbigniew Darzynkiewicz
[edit]The submission of my page is rejected based on the lack of "notability". Trying to be objective (obviously writing about myself this is impossible) - however I am "trying" as much as I can. I am researcher, MD,PhD. I understand that quantity of the publications (I have ~700, PUBMED) itself is not adequate. The number of Google citations (I have <43,400, h index 104) also may be inadequate, because Google includes also the non-peer reviewed articles). However my Web of Knowledge h-index is 174 and the number of citations, excluding self-citations is 220,140. http://apps.webofknowledge.com/CitationReport.do?product=WOS&search_mode=CitationReport&SID=4DnSmB4YG6mgxGe3qkB&page=1&cr_pqid=3&viewType=summary&colName=WOS .
After reading the Wiki instructions I realized that while trying to cite as many achievements as possible perhaps I "diluted" the most important ones with the not so important ones, making the former less "visible". Among the former I have to mentions the following: (1) I was the President (and the Congress Program Chair) of the International Society for Advancement of Cytometry (1994) the Society of over 2,000 members from over 45 countries; (2) I am the principal author of the papers that introduced the key method to detect cell death by apoptosis commonly known as the TUNEL methodology. My several papers describing this method and its key applications have over 10,000 citations; (3) Another widely used methodology detects DNA susceptibility to denaturation and DNA fragmentation in infertile sperm cells was accepted as one of the methods to test male fertility by WHO. I am best known author (Google Scholar Citations) in the fields like "cytometry" (#1,http://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=search_authors&hl=en&mauthors=label:cytometry), "DNA damage" (#1, http://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=search_authors&hl=en&mauthors=label:dna_damage , "fluorescent probes" (#1, http: //scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=search_authors&hl=en&mauthors=label:fluorescent_probes; "cell cycle" #3, http://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=search_authors&hl=en&mauthors=label:cell_cycle. I think that collectively these achievements may place me above the threshold for the acceptance to be listed in Wikipedia Zbigniew Darzynkiewicz (talk) 17:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Zbigniew Darzynkiewicz (talk) 17:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, Zbigniew. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. I think you hit the nail on the head near the beginning of your posting here -- it is indeed impossible to be objective when writing about yourself. So much so that writing autobiographies here on Wikipedia is extremely discuouraged (and see WP:AUTO for more discussion of this). But with regard to your particular question, your posting here doesn't address the major concern raised by the person who reviewed your submission -- you haven't shown that you've attracted substantial notice from reliable third-party sources. And being cited by other researchers is not what we mean by "substantial coverage".
When assessing the notability of researchers, we often look to the criteria under WP:NACADEMIC. My quick reading of your draft didn't satisfy me that you have met any of those criteria, although I did think twice when I saw that you were a member of the Polish Academy of Sciences, because we sometimes view membership in a selective national society as strong evidence of notability. But looking deeper raised questions. Although the PAS limits itself to 350 national members, the most recent membership data that I could find (late 2016) shows that the Academy hasn't reached that limit (having only 316 national members). So, there's a question of just how much selectivity is actually being practiced by the Academy. But there's another problem -- the limit applies only to "national members", and your status with the Academy is as a "foreign" member. I could find no limits on the number of foreign members that are admitted to the Society and the only requirement that I could find was the assembling of a certain small number of recommendations (and if that were a sufficient indication of "notability", we'd have millions of articles on academics).
In all, I think the reviewer was correct in declining your submission. I recognize that this is not the response that you were hoping for and, if you have any further questions, feel free to ask. NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
, I did not realize that being the member of the Polish Academy of Sciences (PAN) makes me more "notable" that my other, scientific achievements and I did not emphasize this point. . Please notice that all the Foreign Members of PAN (except of me) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Academy_of_Sciences are listed in Wikipedia. In fact The list of Foreign Members is more inclusive that the list of "ordinary " members. Please notice that all foreign members except me are listed in Wikipedia. I am also the Fellow of the American Institute for Medical and Biological Engineering (AIMBE), and the Member of Polish Academy of Learning (PAU, Krakow)which is as inclusive as the PAN. Zbigniew Darzynkiewicz (talk) 21:22, 23 June 2017 (UTC)