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[edit]10:32:52, 25 October 2016 review of submission by PaulTapper
[edit]- PaulTapper (talk · contribs)
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Hi,
I have proposed an Article For Creation, which has been rejected. I do have a COI for the article, but I have tried my best to make the article neutral and informative. I have relied heavily on external independent published sources in my references.
Please could anyone advise me on how to improve the article to make it publishable?
Thanks
PaulTapper (talk) 10:32, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, Paul. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. I agree that your submission is neutral and informative. However, I don't think you've succeeded in making it "encyclopedic". As it stands, the submission essentially tells the reader only that the company exists and that it sells certain products, with references that go almost entirely to reviews of those products. To my eyes, the submission is little more than a stripped-down version of what might appear on a web site dedicated to selling the products. In order to meet Wikipedia's notion of "notability", you'll need to demonstrate that the company (and not just its products) have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the company (see WP:Notability for more detail). In its current form, the submission simply does not come close to making that demonstration. NewYorkActuary (talk) 17:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Oldonlooker (talk · contribs)
Dear Sir or Madam,
Thank you very much for your quick reply. I need your assitance because I am a very inexperienced user. I wanted to make an English version of the article in the Russian part of Wikipedia. But you wrote that I am supposed to make some footnotes. I read the explanation about footnotes BUT being inexperienced I did not understand most of what I had read. I am an elderly person and think it is already too late for me to learn hi tech things. Besides, I am not a native speaker. I did the following when I placed the article about A. Pakhotin. I looked at some other articles and saw that a reference is made by adding before the subject of the reference and after it. That is actually all I understood. I do not know how to make other things (I would rather say ALL the other things).
So, if some kind soul helped me in creating all those footnotes I would be realy thankful.
If someone showed me, for example, how to place pictures into the article (I have a few pictures of Pakhotin), I'd be also vwry grateful.
Actually, almost all the material in the article can be referred to different relible sources.
The problem is that I know only [[]] and nothing else.
Thank you again for very helpful hints and tips (unfortunately not for a person like myself). And thanks in advance to those who will risk to help such a prehistoric user like me.
Oldonlooker (talk) 11:59, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Oldonlooker (talk) 11:59, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, Oldonlooker. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. Before posting here, I took a look at your submission and saw (as did the reviewer) that the lack of footnotes is not the only issue. You have also listed an inordinate number of publications in what appears to be an attempt to list every text that the subject has ever translated. On top of that, I see the more basic issue of whether this subject is even "notable" in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word. The listing of those publications obscures the fact that there doesn't appear to be any substantive discussion of the subject himself in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. As to your specific questions regarding assistance in creating the footnotes and adding images, I think it very unlikely that you will recruit any volunteers here (we all have our own content work in addition to our volunteer duties). But you might have better luck asking for help from WikiProjects that are specific to the subject matter. In particular, you might consider asking for assistance on the talk pages of WP:WikiProject Russia and WP:WikiProject Translation Studies. I hope this was helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:50, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
14:07:42, 25 October 2016 review of submission by 216.165.95.3
[edit]- 216.165.95.3 (talk · contribs)
I have a page in "draft:" awaiting editor(s) to move it to the Mainspace. But it has been over a month since I placed it there. At some point should I move it to the main space myself by removing the "draft:" prefix from the title? 216.165.95.3 (talk) 14:07, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
216.165.95.3 (talk) 14:07, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- First, the review process is currently extremely backlogged. I realize that waiting for review can be frustrating. Second, in general, I will point out that the disadvantage to moving a draft from draft space into article space is that it is subject to any of the various deletion processes, all of which are more unpleasant than waiting for review or even than being declined. However, third, in this case the draft does appear to be one that is likely to be accepted. Either just wait a little while or move it to article space and take your chances, because it doesn't appear to be a candidate for deletion. Fourth, please try to remember to log in when editing. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:36, 25 October 2016 (UTC)