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A new article

Hello! Please refer to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nation-E. I have submitted the article on 30 October and still didn't get any reply. When I check the "Reviewer tools" at the bottom of the yellow box, it always indicates that the article have been submitted 2 days ago... Could it be a reason for a delay?

Many thanks! Yinonk (talk) 11:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Two days is not long. We are pushing to clean out the back log with was up to a month in some cases. Patience please. But since you have put it in front of us, I would expect it to be looked at very soon. Thanks for you work. -- :- ) Don 16:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Don, Thank you for your reply! It's more like 7 days actually, but never mind, looking forward for your review...
Yinonk (talk) 21:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/GRATA Law Firm draft

Article draft

Draft article 'GRATA Law Firm' Headquarters: Almaty, Kazakhstan No. of offices: 14 No. of lawyers: Over 90 No. of employees: 135 Major practice areas: General Practice Key people: Tlek Baigabulov (Senior Partner) , Aidar Sarymsakov (Senior Partner) , Akhmetzhan Abdullayev (Senior Partner) , Rashid Gaissin (Managing Partner) Date founded: April 22, 1992 Company type: Limited Liability Partnership Website: www.gratanet.com Profile GRATA Law Firm is the largest independent law firm in Kazakhstan. The Firm’s operations focus on the region of Central Asia and the Caspian Sea. GRATA lawyers have been recognised by international experts including The Legal 500 , Which Lawyer? , Chambers and Partners , International Law Office . In 2011, at the 6th Annual Forum of Corporate Lawyers GRATA was named “The Best Kazakhstani Law Firm”. History GRATA was founded on April 22, 1992 by Tlek Baigabulov and Nikolay Slovyak and headquartered in Almaty, Kazakhstan. Later on, Aidar Sarymsakov and Akhmetzhan Abdullayev joined the Firm. At the moment Tlek Baigabulov , Aidar Sarymsakov and Akhmetzhan Abdullayev are Senior Partners of GRATA Law Firm. All three graduated from the Kazakh State University and then undertook postgraduate study and different training courses both in Kazakhstan and abroad. The first branch office of GRATA was opened in Atyrau in 1997. Later on new GRATA branches were opened in West Kazakhstan. The beginning of 2000 saw new operating offices opened in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan. The Firm is set to open new offices in Turkmenistan and Georgia soon. Following this, GRATA aims to establish a presence in Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran. Practices GRATA has gained unique expertise in: Contract Law & Procurement Procedures Corporate Law Customs Law Dispute Resolution Environmental Law Finance & Securities Intellectual Property Labour Law Licences & Permits Real Estate Subsoil Use Tax Law & Transfer Pricing In addition the firm has expertise in important sectors of the economy such as: Banking & Finance Construction & Infrastructure Industry & Trade Natural Resources Telecommunication & Transport Offices GRATA has offices in all major industrial and financial centers of Kazakhstan (Almaty, Astana, Atyrau, Aktau, Aktobe, Kostanai). Outside of Kazakhstan GRATA has operating offices in the following jurisdictions: Tashkent Baku Bishkek Dushanbe Ulaanbaatar GRATA also maintains representative offices in: London New York Moscow Notable Mandates Legal counsel of North Caspian Operating Company BV, operator under the North Caspian Sea Production Sharing Agreement - Kashagan Oil&Gas Field, the world's largest discovery in the last 30 years; Advising (ongoing) an international construction company in connection with participation in largest residential construction project at the outskirts of Almaty for USD 4 billion; Advising (ongoing) a consortium of major Kazakhstani and Russian energy producers in connection with reconstruction of the largest electrical energy producing enterprise in Kazakhstan for USD 700 million; Advising a leading Kazakhstani airline in connection with structuring of aircraft financing and acquisition; Advising UniCredit Group in their acquisition of ATF Bank, one of the largest Kazakhstani banks for USD 2,117 million; Advising the Joint Global Coordinators of an IPO of the Eurasian Natural Resources Corporation (ENRC) for USD 2.6 billion in London and Kazakhstan; Advising Samsung C&T Corporation (Korea) on the financing and construction (USD 5 billion) of Balkhash Thermal Power Plant, the first IPP project in Kazakhstan; Advising a leading Korean bank, Kookmin Bank, on the acquisition of 23% stake in Kazakhstani Bank CenterCredit for USD 634 million; Representing a major Turkish construction contractor in a complex dispute with a developer arising out of several contracts over failure to pay over USD 40,000,000 for construction work; Enforcement of a foreign arbitral award for the recovery of over USD 46,000,000 issued against a large Kazakh producer of oil & gas; Enforcement in Kazakhstan of an arbitral award issued by a Kazakh arbitral institution for the recovery of over USD 30,000,000 in favor of a leading Canadian industrial and engineering company. Awards Awards by GRATA include: The Best Kazakhstani Law Firm Capital Markets Team of the Year Tax Disputes Team of the Year, 2011 Construction & Infrastructure Team of the Year, 2011 Halyk IPO Award: Best Due Diligence Counsel Capital Markets Team of the Year, 2010 Mining Team of the Year, 2010 M&A Team of the Year, 2009 Corporate Team of the Year, 2009 Project Finance Deal of the Year (China Law Awards, 2009) Energy & Resources Deal of the Year (China Law Awards, 2009) Membership GRATA Law Firm is the member of the following Associations: Kazakhstan Association of Taxpayers Kazakhstan Petroleum Lawyers Association (KPLA) European Business Association of Kazakhstan (EUROBAK) American Chamber of Commerce in Kazakhstan (AmCham) The Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Republic of Kazakhstan British-Kazakh Law Association British-Kazakh Society Rankings Chambers and Partners The Legal 500 Which Lawyer? International Law Office Links Official web-site Profile at The Lawyer Profile at The Legal 500 Profile at IFLR 1000 Profile at Martindale-Hubbell Profile at Hieros Gamos References

(Elmira Kylyshbayeva 11:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC))

This is not the place to submit articles. You can go here: Wikipedia:Article wizard and then copy and paste, or I can move and submit it for you, if you prefer. -- :- ) Don 16:30, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see it is already submitted and awaiting review. Is there a problem? -- :- ) Don 16:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Artemis Offshore Academy

Hello,

I've been trying to publish my article online but I am having a problem with the referencing. The format I'm putting the reference is showing blank when I click save page. Please help. An article on the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Artemis Offshore Academy that I was updating as incorrect was last week deleted despite me trying to make the changes you asked for, so the original referencing that still supports the articles is now lost. Wikipedia are being most unhelpful in what I am trying to do and I now need help please. Emma (EKH 88 (talk) 12:23, 5 November 2012 (UTC))

I have repaired the references; the tag closing a footnote should be "</ref>", not "<ref>" again. There are several other problems: Firstly, footnotes are supposed to be put directly after the statement they support, not at the very end of the article. See Help:Footnotes for more details. Secondly, the sources other than the Artemis Academy website don't even mention the Artemis Academy. To be considered notable, a topic must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles. Unless such coverage can be found, we cannot accept the submission. Huon (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mykola Budnyk

Is is there there enough references in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinedw (talk • contribs) 12:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

That depends on how much the references have to say about Budnyk. If they cover Budnyk in some detail, four sources should be enough for a short article. If they only mention his name in passing, they are probably not enough. They seem to be rather difficult to find; I don't think my local library carries any of them, so I can't check how much these sources say about Budnyk. But significant parts of the draft, such as the sections on teachers and students, currently don't cite any sources at all - that may indicate a problem. Huon (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I will try to find more. But I have to say that in those parts you pointed there are links to another articles of english Wikipedia. His teacher, fellow students and some of his pupils were described here before. He just become a chain to connect generationsKinedw (talk) 09:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikilinks themselves are not sources, but maybe we can re-use the sources in those linked articles if they mention Budnyk? Huon (talk) 15:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I collected references from those pages and named Further reading because it is not only the literature about him, but the books and magazine articles about the subject and object of my article (master and instruments he built) Kinedw (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of User:Hikenstuff/sandbox

I started an article.

I wrote it in Word according to the instructions as best I could. Then I copied it to the sandbox.

It has some minor equations. They didn't show up right.

I then converted the Word document to PFD and copied it in the sandbox. It did a little better, but is still not correct.

Please advise me on how to do equations correctly.

I believe the rest of my article follows the rules, but would appreciate a review and suggestions.

Thank you,

Hikenstuff (talk) 14:28, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Hikestuff

Wikipedia has a dedicated math environment for formulas that uses LaTeX math code. The environment itself is given by "<math></math>" tags. For more information on formulas, see Help:Displaying a formula. Huon (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

My second article

Hi! I have a little problem (it is my first article in the English wiki and my second at all). I am not sure if I have it done right... Few months ago I started an article about the musician Stefan Obermaier. But on that time, I couldn't find enough secondary references. And so the article got not approved. Now I found material, but I didn't get it to "change" my old article, so I created a whole new one. -But now there stands below the "review waiting": "Warning: This page should probably be located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/sandbox (move). Warning: A page with this title exists. Please make sure that this proposed article does not already exist or that it does not need to be moved to a different title." is this ok, or do I have a problem being in the sandbox (I can't move it)? And do I have a problem, that "A page with this title exists" because of my former not approved one? I have no Idea how to help me... Thanks, best, Kirschblume (talk) 17:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The basic problem is indeed that your draft was not where it's supposed to be - at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stefan Obermaier (that was still your old draft, I believe). But the template that generated the message isn't smart enough to determine what your draft should be named; since the draft was at User:Kirschblume/sandbox, the template guessed that it should be at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/sandbox which also exists but has nothing to do with your previous draft.

I have pasted the new draft over the old one, have submitted the now-improved Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stefan Obermaier for review and have "declined" your sandbox submission while linking to the draft in AfC space (just so we don't have two identical drafts submitted for review). If you make additional improvements, please edit Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stefan Obermaier directly instead of creating another separate draft. Huon (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I just have done that, because the old one was declined and I haven't found the option to start from new now... But now, have I to do something more, to apply again for approval, or not, because you have done it already? best, Kirschblume (talk) 18:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I got it! :) -I think I've requested again correctly! (sorry it is my secondary time..) best, Kirschblume (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Oops! I had intended to also copy the submission template from your sadbox, but I missed that line. Sorry for that! It's now correctly resubmitted. Huon (talk) 19:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Wine festival-Rahovec(Kosova)

This information is for Rahovec(Kosova).We are like you :)

ME:The wine festival in Rahovec is held on every second Thursday of September month, each year. People wear traditional costumes, dance and have fun, while trying the wine of their neighbors. Homemade Rakia, is also among the items to be tasted. As a characteristic of the Rahoveci people is their unique dialect.

YOU: :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.99.54.2 (talk) 19:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The draft doesn't cite any reliable sources, and the festival doesn't appear to be notable. Do you require specific help? Huon (talk) 20:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Robert Elwes Victorian Traveller Painter 1819 - 1878

I have added extra references for "Robert Elwes Victorian Traveller Painter" as requested. I have two pictures that I wish to add - could you please let me know how I do that.

Many thanks

Juliet Webster (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Juliet Webster

If the images are in the public domain or have been published under a free license, you can upload them to the Wikimedia Commons via their Upload Wizard. Once they have been uploaded, the picture tutorial explains how to add them to the draft.

However, I'm not quite sure the sources are sufficient. Two of them seem to be primary sources written by Elwes himself. I doubt an auctioneer's catalogue is reliable by Wikipedia's standards. And I had problems finding some - the King's Lynn version of A Sketcher's Tour apparently is an 8-page booklet that's not in the British Library's catalogue. How could I look up that source? The same goes for The Birkbecks of Norfolk and Travelling at Leisure - A world tour in 1848-1850; I couldn't find out anything at all about those. Do they have ISBNs? What's the publisher? Huon (talk) 21:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

edit conflict Greetings Juliet, a few points on your article, which is a great start and will with just a little polishing be a very strong article.

• Your article was not divided into WP:Sections, I've put in some for you, though feel free to rename, rearrange, make some sub-sections, etc.
• Your article had no Wikilinks to other articles, so I added some as an example. Generally we don't link commonly used nouns (painter, castle, horse), but would link technical terms (modernist painting, bailey, Arabian horse). Similarly, we generally don't link country names, but do most city names. Terms are only linked for their first appearance in the article. WP:Wikilinks has the full policy if you'd like.
• Your writing is overall pretty solid and encyclopedic, and the sources themselves look great. That said, it'll really help the reader if you can convert your listed sources into WP:Footnotes, so that we can tell where each sentence or paragraph can be verified by the source books. Right now, for example, if I'm curious about the fact Soon after his return he married Mary Lucas, daughter of the Rector of Edith Weston in Rutland, I have no idea which of your sources bears this out. Footnotes aren't totally mandatory, but are helpful.
• Even if you'd rather not mess with footnotes, it'd help greatly if you could give the links to GoogleBooks (or Project Gutenberg, etc) for the books you cite. Most of them are out-of-copyright and available online, or in-copyright but have Previews up on GoogleBooks. You can form footnotes/citations automatically using http://reftags.appspot.com; use as-is for footnotes, or remove the <ref> </ref> bits to just use it as a citation.
• To upload images, if they're out of copyright (which anything published in his lifetime should be), you can upload them to Wikimedia Commons, and there's a relatively intuitive form there you can fill out. Images are a little tricky at first, so please give it a try but don't be afraid to ask for help if you get error messages. Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions is a good place to get general Wiki advice from volunteer mentors. Hope this helps, and great work so far, almost there! MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

can't find the submission draft I saved (many times)

Hi, I worked on Friday on an a submission entitled JEREMY PARADISE, a tech entrepreneur.

Unfortunately, I can't find it anywhere within my account.

Could you please help?

I really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RiodeJ2016 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't think I can help you. I tried searching for the submission and came up empty. Your contributions show no edits before today. That might be because the draft was deleted, but usually the admin deleting it would leave a note to that effect on your talk page. I also checked the deletion logs of the most likely candidates, your sandbox, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/RiodeJ2016, the current location of your (empty) draft that was moved from your sandbox, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Jeremy Paradise where a draft on Jeremy Paradise should be according to our naming conventions, and came up empty: None of those pages has ever held a now-deleted draft. Furthermore, your edit count doesn't list any deleted contributions either. So deletion seems an unlikely explanation. Do you remember the exact title of the Wikipedia page that held your submission? Are you sure you saved it and didn't just check a preview? Huon (talk) 22:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)