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Nominations for July 2006
[edit]A bishop that had a prominent religious role in the restoration (the return of the monarchy to England after Cromwell), and a large part to play in the continued use of the BCP, and the return of ritualism after puritan rule. Clinkophonist 18:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Would be nice to see this article expaned, to take in account of its history, and etc Brian | (Talk) 21:46, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Good idea to populate this with Provincial and National church seals and perhaps break it into sub-categories for diocesan seals and logos. - (Bob K | Talk) 15:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm surprised to see that the WP article on "the defining statements of Anglican doctrine" is so minimal; nothing but the titles of each article, and brief historical notes. An explanation of each article, along with more historical information (evolution from the Forty-Two Articles, how do the 39 "highlight some of the major differences between Anglican and Roman Catholic doctrine", use and differing views in other Churches of the Communion, etc.) would IMHO make this a much stronger article. --Wine Guy 22:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Anglicanism COTM for July
[edit]The only one to get more than one vote is Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia. So let's get together and work on that one. Nominations for next month are:
- John Cosin
- Category:Anglican heraldry
- Thirty-Nine Articles
- Support. A vital document in Anglican polity and ecclesiology. Fishhead64 23:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
...and whichever ones you want to add below. Fishhead64 23:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Nominations for August 2006
[edit]A vital document for Anglican identity, theology, and ecclesiology. Improving it should include merging in Forty-Two Articles, imo. Fishhead64 20:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. From my nom last month- "I'm surprised to see that the WP article on "the defining statements of Anglican doctrine" is so minimal; nothing but the titles of each article, and brief historical notes. An explanation of each article, along with more historical information (evolution from the Forty-Two Articles, how do the 39 "highlight some of the major differences between Anglican and Roman Catholic doctrine", use and differing views in other Churches of the Communion, etc.) would IMHO make this a much stronger article." --Wine Guy Talk 22:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. This needs expanding, however, perhaps we should find out how prominant they are. I'm a quite catholic Anglican, and so I agree with rather few of them. How do evangelicals view them? And how about the Liberal branch? --Anthropax 18:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Not that I'm equipped to help, but it does seem rather a major ommission. Yes the importance placed on them has probably diminished over time, but as one of the original statements that defined Anglicanism it ought ot be rather more comprehensive. David Underdown 14:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. I'm also not much help, but I think these are really important to an historical understanding of Anglicanism. -- GumbyProf 03:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per Anthropax. Would be nice to see some work also on the Six Articles.
Oppose. Well I would, wouldn't I? I can't vote against my own proposal.Vote withdrawn --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)- Support. I think this is a good article to work on. It is important for all Anglicans to understand this historic document and how it impacts on the life of our Communion. Balin42632003 04:37, 1 August 2006 (EST)
Someone proposed this as a new article on the project page; in my opinion articles which refer to churchmanship and doctrinal motivations for various church actions are weakened without an overarching summary of doctrine to refer to, yet authoring may seem too difficult for one person to take on. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Nominations for January
[edit]Please add nominations for January below. Please indicate your support for the nomination.
- I am nominating St. Thomas Episcopal Church, New York, because its choir is world renowned and it is a high profile Episcopal Church in New York City. Deputydog23 22:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm currently working myself on the article, now titled Saint Thomas Church (New York City) after I renamed it a few weeks back. I'd prefer to not have it be the COTM at this time so that I can finish my revision of the article. I do, however, encourage people to leave some ideas on how to improve the article. I'd aim over the next year to improve the Episcopalian churches in New York City, after I finish my work on the STC article. —ExplorerCDT 00:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- I nominate N.T. Wright, as he is currently a major player in New Testament history. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.66.62.70 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 15 September 2006
- I would like to see this as January's COTM. Support. —ExplorerCDT 00:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- I nominate adding a small section on preceved Churchmanship to as many province pages as possible, with a short explanation as to why there is this perception. Anthropax 11:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- I suspect that this would be tricky to do without contravening WP:NOR - unless anyone is aware of any appropriate references? David Underdown 09:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I nominate a new article on Anglican spirituality paralleling the existing one on Roman Catholic spirituality. Fishhead64 02:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I second this nomination. Uberveritas 17:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- I nominate the Scottish Episcopal Church, or more specifically the Primus of the Scottish Episcopal Church. The role of Primus was developed in the 1700s from the death of the last Archbishop, with Metropolitan responsibilities being jointly held by the college of bishops. An precis of how this transistion occured, especially as the SEC was "prohibited" for quite a few years during this century. Stewart 22:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I wish to support this nomination -- I'm currently working with former Primus Cameron, who is in the States until May, and could possibly be of use for this collaboration. ~~ Meeples (talk)(email) 04:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's a nice, meaty possibility, along with the Irish Anglican Church, for being a substantial and historically knotted church with rich materials. Not sure about collaborating on the Primus, but the church would be juicy and have enough angles for a number of hands to work on. Geogre 03:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- I would also support the nomination. Historically, the Church is of great interest and it would be great to bring the article up to featured status. PMJ 11:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds good. The role of the non-jurors (both English and Scottish, or rather the relationship of English non-jurors to the Scottish church, if there was one--I'm not too clear on this) could probably get a broader treatment as well.--Bhuck 15:21, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- I support this nomination. The decision by the Scottish bishops to consecrate the first bishop for the United States in 1784 when the C of E would not consecrate one is reason enough, particularly at this time. By that act, it could be argued, the SEC kickstarted the Anglican Communion. There is lots of other interesting stuff to have a go at too. Kelvin Holdsworth 16:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Primus Cameron? I support the nomination. Oh, and a wonderful Christmas, everyone. --Pan Gerwazy 17:28, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- The existing article, whilst making a brave beginning, undoubtedly needs to be improved. I'm not in much of a position to contribute to it myself, but I'd like to see it sharpened up. Pgg7 06:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm theologically minded, and I'd love to see a new article on the Anglican doctrine of real presence to transclude into the article on Real Presence. Currently, that article is an omnibus article that attempts to address every denomination, and the nuances of the Anglican view get fair but desultory treatment. Geogre 03:24, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- The article is at Anglican Eucharistic theology. Carolynparrishfan 19:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The voting is now CLOSED and the clear consensus is Scottish Episcopal Church. If you wish to renominate any of these entries, please do so below. I'll archive this discussion in three days. Fishhead64 07:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Nominations for February
[edit]Please add nominations for February below. Please indicate your support for the nomination.
- I'm nominating Anglican views of homosexuality for improvement. There's some good material there, but this is such a significant topic as far as Anglicanism is concerned - and its profile in the media in some countries - that you would reasonably expect this article to be one of the more visited in Wikipedia amongst those seeking information about Anglicanism. The current state of the debate needs to be explained in more detail. Pgg7 07:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Anglican realignment - This article annoys me chiefly because it is an example of the exceptionalist fallacy: There is nothing new about schismatic movements in Anglicanism - the Puritans who left to start Presbyterian and Congregationalist churches; those of the Wesleyan Revival who became Methodists, the Plymouth Brethren, the Reformed Episcopal Church, and the movement of members of the Catholic Revival - like Newman - to the Roman Catholic Church. I think it needs to be more comprehensive and long-viewed, and hopefully otehrs will agree. Fishhead64 21:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Support - Non-conformism has been to Anglicanism what Protestantism has been to the Catholic Church: the ideas and people change but each generation has its own schismatics. The long-view could include the nastiness of the English Civil War which lead to the Acts of Toleration. Also, could mention the Baptist and Quakers of the 17th C, the Deists of the 18th C. as earlier schismatic movements. At one time within Anglican history, one talked of the "old" schismatics and the "new". No doubt the Anglican realignment schismatics see themselves as "new and improved" Wassupwestcoast 04:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Anglican realignment - I think this article needs some more work so that it can accurately whats is going on. Someday there will be a new Church in the Province of North America and the hows and whys thereof should be presented well. I mean let the heretics re-write history, let us Orthodox Anglicans explain whats going on properly.--Lord Balin 05:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Anglican realignment is the COTM for February. Lets start sharpening our pencils! Fishhead64 06:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for March-April
[edit]- I'm nominating William Wilberforce for improvement. This year and month (25 March 1807 to be exact) mark the 200th anniversary of the abolition of the slave trade in the UK and empire. William Wilberforce was an evangelical Anglican. The Archbishop of Canterbury no less has marked this year for the celebration of the abolition of slavery. I think it would be a good thing to make the Wikipedia entry on Wilberforce even better this month. Wassupwestcoast 01:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Having done quite a lot of work on William Wilberforce article, I'm happy to support its nomination. I could sure do with some help from people who know their subject and have read about the great man. It would be most fitting if this could be improved to at least GA status, if not higher, during this coming month. The film about Wilberforce will be released in the US on 23 February, and in the UK on 23 March. – Agendum 19:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- I support this nomination as well because of the historical importance of this date. Roboyang 17:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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– Kaihsu 15:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)- Wilberforce was, as his emminent contemporary biographer puts it, a hero to humanity. Amazing Grace, the fantastic film which tells his story, is set to come out in America this Friday and in the UK next month. It will tell the story of a man whose faith called him to the impossible. Unlike many, Wilberforce bravely answered the call and we are all graciously indebted to him for it. 128.138.64.249 16:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
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sugarfish 18:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC) – Having been brought up with the story of WW (he was a native of my home town -- and much revered) I support this nomination wholeheartedly. Everyone should see the movie too -- a very moving story.
- I nominate the English Reformation. The historical background behind the formation of the Church of England is a top priority and I think this could be an excellent article. User:Roger Arguile has done some excellent work on the subject, and I feel there could be potential for featured article nomination! PMJ 23:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm nominating Anglican views of homosexuality for improvement. There's some good material there, but this is such a significant topic as far as Anglicanism is concerned - and its profile in the media in some countries - that you would reasonably expect this article to be one of the more visited in Wikipedia amongst those seeking information about Anglicanism. The current state of the debate urgently needs to be explained in more detail. I would try and improve it if I felt confident enough about the facts. Pgg7 09:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support: As the article Anglican realignment is still not up to the level it needs to be, and as this article is mixing some of those (church-political) issues in with the pure questions about homosexuality, I feel this whole complex of subjectts could use further work. One of the other candidates is a bit too "special interest" to be taken up at this point (if the big points are covered well, we can worry about details like individual biographies), and the other is too well-done at the current moment to be worthy of receiving such focus.--Bhuck 00:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support as well, for Bhuck's convincing reasons. I'm currently working on a project revising the article on Anglican doctrine and am doing so with the spectre of this debate looming in the background. There are a constellation of relevant articles here, some of which are radiating more heat than light or simply enumerating stances and actions without providing necessary historical or doctrinal context. It would be nice to bring these up to a standard of some excellence, devoid of PsOV and agendas, especially since it is this debate which is crystallizing Anglican self-definition and is the portal through which much of the non-Anglican world is viewing the Communion. Fishhead64 03:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support; article is already a good start and is on a very important, up-to-date topic. —Angr 10:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for May-June 2007
[edit]- I nominate Protestantism for improvement. For those editors who have to say "Wait a minute, Anglicans are not Protestant!" this would make a good Anglicanism project of the month for May. The article is not in good shape. The article has almost no references. Anglicanism is often viewed as completely Protestant. Here is the chance to correct the misunderstanding by writing the article. I've made some small headway on the introduction where I eliminated my favourite nonsense so far on Wikipedia: to quote
Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 03:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Although it is often beleived (sic) that The word 'Protestant' comes from the word 'protest', while it is in fact from the two words 'pro' and 'testament'.
- I nominate Protestantism for improvement. For those editors who have to say "Wait a minute, Anglicans are not Protestant!" this would make a good Anglicanism project of the month for May. The article is not in good shape. The article has almost no references. Anglicanism is often viewed as completely Protestant. Here is the chance to correct the misunderstanding by writing the article. I've made some small headway on the introduction where I eliminated my favourite nonsense so far on Wikipedia: to quote
Tosh; I think: it relates to those who dissented, at the Diet of Spires (1529), from its conclusions. Roger Arguile 17:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'm wary, not because Anglicans are not necessarily Protestants (although that is true), but rather because Protestantism is not a subset of Anglicanism. There's too much in the way of non-Anglican Protestantism for it to be an appropriate COTM for us, in my opinion. But if WikiProject Christianity wanted to tackle it, that would be fine. (And I would have put the "(sic)" after "beleived", not after "often"!) —Angr 05:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, the "(sic)" should have been placed better and I've corrected it :-) Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 12:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for September 2007
[edit]- Nominating Edward Reynolds: Bishop of Norwich -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Researcherraul (talk • contribs) 22:56, 25 August 2007
- Nominating Book of Common Prayer. Has been a virtual COTM in August. -- SECisek 20:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Support Book of Common Prayer. This ought to be GA in Anglicanism. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for October 2007
[edit]- Nominating Rowan Williams -- SECisek 22:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Current nominations for November
[edit]Please add nominations for November below. Please indicate your support for the nomination.
1. Nominating Episcopal Diocese of Haiti. Bridgman 17:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support.
The Eglise Episcopale d'Haiti is supposedly the largest diocese in the ECUSA (in number of congregants). It was started in 1864 by James Theodore Holly, an Episcopal priest from Connecticut who was the the EC's first African-American bishop (Haiti/I, consecrated 1874). Extent of current Wikipedia historic coverage about him.
Today the Diocese of Haiti has nearly 180,000 parishioners in 98 congregations, missions, and preaching stations. Fewer than 30 priests currently serve the diocese.[1]
As to the subject's notability, here's my citation-free analysis: Given the linguistic and cultural differences between Haiti and its Caribbean neighbors, it's essentially an impoverished sub-Saharan African nation that someone left on the Western Hemisphere's doorstep, but whose Anglican leader has a permanent voice and vote in the American General Convention and House of Bishops. This presents a possible relational contrast/inverse to the emerging trend of conservative American Episcopal clergy and congregations who are aligning with African dioceses. (That's not to say that the Haitian bishop is considered less orthodox than his African counterparts. This is a geographic contrast/inverse, not necessarily a theological or political one.)
The sheer size of the diocese also echoes the oft-repeated statistic that, on any given Sunday, there are more Nigerians attending Anglican worship services than British, Canadians and Americans combined.
Bridgman 17:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is an interesting article but I doubt that most of the Anglicanism project participants can contribute except to copy edit. In other words, it is too specific. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Nominating Anglican devotions -- SECisek 21:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support.
An article of the highest priority in need of much work! -- SECisek 21:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Support. This article is interesting but is - obviously - quite anglo-catholic in interest. I don't know if it is the highest priority but I think there are more Angiclanism project editors who could contribute to the expanision of this article. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- In its current form, it certainly has an Anglo-Catholic bias, but is that inevitable? Surely Anglo-Catholics aren't the only Anglicans who practice private forms of worship outside of church services. —Angr 00:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for December 2007
[edit]Authorized King James Version. This article was FA but is poorly sourced. Not only does it have great significance for the Church of England and Anglicanism in general but in the contemporary Anglican church, December is the most likely month when the version is actually used in services. Perhaps it is not to shock all the C(hristmas) & E(aster) Anglicans, but the Christmas story is mostly read from this version. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 19:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Nominations for January 2008
[edit]Keep it: With the holidays, very little work got done on the COTM. I propose we hold KJV over for another month as COTM. -- SECisek (talk) 09:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Support. There has been some work done recently on the article and probably more will happen after the holidays end. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 18:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Nominations for April 2008
[edit]Please add nominations for March below. Please indicate your support for the nomination with Support or Oppose and a brief comment
John Overall
[edit]- Nominate. John Overall (bishop). This article is actively being developed and looks to be an easy case for FA status. Actually, the list of contributors/translators to the Authorized King James Version all might be reasonably easy candidates for GA or FA status without a large amount of work...and potentially controversy free. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 16:58, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- According to User:Giano/A fool's guide to writing a featured article,"Biographies are the easiest things to write... For your first FA it is a good idea to select someone dead as they can't sue or write a letter of complaint to Jimbo, also writing the conclusion is easier when there is a definite end and you can finish with a cheery picture of your pet Labrador/girlfriend/neighbour sitting by their tombstone." Wise words, indeed. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Support. Both noms are good, but as one of the people working on Overall, I support this one. -- SECisek (talk) 07:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Nominations for January 2009
[edit]- Since no one has nominated an article, I'll start this month's. Historic St. Luke's in Smithfield, Virginia. I nominate it because it's actually an interesting building, it's believed to be the oldest still fully intact Anglican Church in the Western Hemisphere, and the article is only listed as "Start" quality. It had some activity a few months back with discussion of whether information in the article was even accurate.Bill Ward (talk)