Wikipedia:User categorisation
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This is a new Wikiproject dedicated to revamping the system by which users may categorize themselves. In the past (and partially for now until the new system is entirely in place) user categorization has been accomplished through hundreds of unsorted lists that are growing very large in some cases and are almost entirely unmanageable. The English Wikipedia is one of the few still using this defunct system. It has been proposed (and is currently being implemented) that these lists be replaced by a system of organised categories. Thus was spawned the WikiProject for User Categorisation.
The old system
[edit]- Note: this information is outdated
Visit Wikipedia:Wikipedians to see the old system of categorisation. There is an extremely large and unwieldy Wikipedia:Alphabetical list of Wikipedians list, and many subpages for listing by region (for example, Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Argentina). These pages are entirely unsorted, voluntary listings that do not automatically reflect on user pages. They do offer annotation, which in the new system will be reserved for individual user pages (as it should be). The issue of being able to sub-categorise within countries and states has been raised, but there is no problem! Simply create sub-categories within the state you wish to break up (for example, in Canada, or large states like California there is good cause to create many sub-categories).
The new system
[edit]The 'master' category is Category:Wikipedians, with the bulk of the changes being made through its sub-category Category:Wikipedians by location which will eventually replace all of the regional listings through Wikipedia:Wikipedians. This will allow for the replacement of many unwieldy, unsorted voluntary-listing pages and also allow that categories a user is added to will reflect on their user page, which would not happen under the old system of lists.
Participants
[edit]Please list yourself here if you are going to help work on this project. Some users have had their names added by others because of large contributions.
- rigan123 (talk · contribs)
- RuMoR (talk · contribs)
- falcofire (talk · contribs)
- Andrew Hampe (talk · contribs)
- Urthogie (talk · contribs)
- This project was initiated by Thereverendeg (talk · contribs)
- AxSkov (talk · contribs)
- Phoenix-forgotten (talk · contribs)
- I'll try this. — Bcat (talk • email) 16:08, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Ianblair23 (talk · contribs)
- PeepP (talk · contribs)
- Sherool (talk · contribs)
- Korivak (talk · contribs) -- I'm starting with Ottawa and working my way up to Ontario and eventually to Canada.
- Army1987 (talk · contribs)
- Justin.herald (talk · contribs)
- Rmky87 (talk · contribs)
- Doviende (talk · contribs) -- working on British Columbia first -- 18:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- Skraz (talk · contribs)
- Cooksey (talk · contribs)
- Larix (talk · contribs)
- o_keyes (talk · contribs)
- Gundam785 (talk · contribs)
- CQ (talk · contribs)
- scott3 (talk · contribs)
- Cswrye (talk · contribs)
- Bastetmeow (talk · contribs) -- can someone contact me to tell me how to help? I'd like to but am not sure how
- leujohn (talk · contribs) -- can someone tell me how to make new categories? Thanks
- Bombyourselves (talk · contribs) -- I would also like to help but don't really know where to begin
- tanstaafl28 (talk · contribs)--I'll give it a whack. Tanstaafl28 01:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Moralis (talk · contribs)
How to help
[edit]- See To-do below for detailed list of pages that need attention.
Thanks to all who lend a hand! To follow progress, please visit Wikipedia:Wikipedians and its subpages, where more instructions are temporarily provided according to the specific page.
The instructions on this page are also always open to clarification by anybody willing to help!
Creating new categories
[edit]If there are subsections within these pages, they should be reflected by sub-categories to the category that will be replacing the parent pages.
See below on how to populate the new category.
Every user category page should use one of the Usercat templates to insert a standard message to the category description.
Most pages will want to use Template:Usercat:
{{Usercat|Albania|.}}
This inserts a standard message like this:
This page is replacing Wikipedians/Albania. See User categorisation for more information.
Classification: Wikipedians | By location | Albania
Wikipedians who live in or are associated with Albania.
To add yourself to this list, insert the following on your user page:
[[Category:Wikipedians in Albania|{{PAGENAME}}]]
The third argument, in this case a period, is added to the end of the description, so you can add regional noticeboard links, etc.
For subcategories, use one of the Usercat-x templates, where x is a number. An example:
{{Usercat-1|Alberta|Canada|Canadian Wikipedians|Canada|.}}
The arguments are: Country name, the Wikipedia:Wikipedians subpage the category is replacing, the parent category link, the parent category visible link part (i.e. the parent country name) and the description, as in Usercat.
The Usercat-x templates with x bigger than 1 use a similar style for arguments, with the first, second and last being the same, and the arguments in the middle being parents in different levels (i.e. China | People's Republic of China | Mainland China).
Populating existing categories
[edit]- Make sure that the new category page is using one of the Usercat template as described above in Creating new categories.
- Visit the page that is being replaced (some of the new categories listed below do not have a page they are replacing, but the category page itself still needs formatting). The link to the left is generally the one being replaced.
- If there are subsections to that page they warrant the creation of new subcategories (for example, on Wikipedia:Wikipedians/New York, there is an explicit New York City section that warrants a sub-category to Category:Wikipedians in New York (state)). If those subcats are not listed, they should be added to the list below until somebody adds them to help the community work out issues.
- Visit the user pages listed and leave them a message on their talk page with this contents: {{Usercat_msg|country|category}}, where country is the country page the user was listed on and category is the new category that is replacing the list. This way, users can choose themselves whether they want to add their names to the category system or not, instead of rudely editing their user pages. Remember, you still have to sign the edit.
- After the above two steps have been done, the page should be entirely erased except for a notice stating that the page has been replaced by the category (redirects to categories don't work correctly because of a bug in the MediaWiki software). Use an edit summary like Removed and redirected as part of [[Wikipedia:User categorisation]]., so if someone is watching the page, they won't get a knee-jerk reaction to revert. Use this notice:
This page has been replaced by [[:Category:Wikipedians in Acadia]].
- Once those steps are completed, the list below should be modified to reflect the completion by
striking(<s>striking</s>) the replaced link and making the finished category bold ('''bold''').
To-do
[edit]Regional pages
[edit]The link on the left is a subpage of Wikipedia:Wikipedians that is to be replaced by its right-hand counterpart, which is a sub-category of Category:Wikipedians by location.
A
[edit]- Acadia: See #Acadia
Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Albania→ Category:Wikipedians in AlbaniaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Algeria→ Category:Wikipedians in AlgeriaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Andorra→ Category:Wikipedians in AndorraCatalonia→ Category:Wikipedians in Catalonia (divided between Spain, Andorra and France)
Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Antigua & barbuda→ Category:Wikipedians in Antigua & BarbudaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Argentina→ Category:Wikipedians in ArgentinaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Armenia→ Category:Wikipedians in Armenia- Aruba: See #Aruba
Australia→ Category:Australian WikipediansACT→ Category:Wikipedians in ACTNew South Wales→ Category:Wikipedians in New South WalesNorthern Territory→ Category:Wikipedians in Northern TerritoryQueensland→ Category:Wikipedians in QueenslandSouth Australia→ Category:Wikipedians in South AustraliaTasmania→ Category:Wikipedians in TasmaniaVictoria→ Category:Wikipedians in VictoriaWestern Australia→ Category:Wikipedians in Western Australia
Austria→ Category:Wikipedians in AustriaAzerbaijan→ Category:Wikipedians in Azerbaijan
B
[edit]Bangladesh→ Category:Bangladeshi WikipediansBarbados→ Category:Wikipedians in BarbadosBasque Country→ Category:Wikipedians in Basque Country (divided between Spain and France)Belarus→ Category:Wikipedians in BelarusBelgium→ Category:Wikipedians in BelgiumBelize→
Category:Wikipedians in Belize
Bermuda→ Category:Wikipedians in BermudaBhutan→ Category:Wikipedians in BhutanBolivia→ Category:Wikipedians in BoliviaBosnia and Herzegovina→ Category:Wikipedians in Bosnia and HerzegovinaBotswana→ Category:Wikipedians in BotswanaBrazil→ Category:Wikipedians in Brazil - 44 users- Brittany: See #Brittany
Bulgaria→ Category:Wikipedians in Bulgaria
C
[edit]Cameroon→ Category:Wikipedians in CameroonCanada→ Category:Wikipedians in CanadaAlberta→ Category:Wikipedians in AlbertaBritish Columbia→ Category:Wikipedians in British ColumbiaManitoba→ Category:Wikipedians in ManitobaNew Brunswick→ Category:Wikipedians in New BrunswickNewfoundland and Labrador→ Category:Wikipedians in Newfoundland & LabradorNorthwest Territories→ Category:Wikipedians in the Northwest TerritoriesNova Scotia→ Category:Wikipedians in Nova ScotiaNunavut→ Category:Wikipedians in NunavutOntario→ Category:Wikipedians in OntarioBarrie→ Category:Wikipedians in BarrieBolton→ Category:Wikipedians in Bolton, OntarioBrampton→ Category:Wikipedians in Brampton, OntarioBrantford→ Category:Wikipedians in BrantfordHamilton→ Category:Wikipedians in HamiltonKeswick→ Category:Wikipedians in Keswick, OntarioKingston→ Category:Wikipedians in KingstonLondon→ Category:Wikipedians in London, OntarioMississauga→ Category:Wikipedians in MississaugaOttawa→ Category:Wikipedians in OttawaRussell→ Category:Wikipedians in Russell, OntarioSt. Catharines, Ontario→ Category:Wikipedians in St. CatharinesSault Ste. Marie→ Category:Wikipedians in Sault Ste. Marie, OntarioThunder Bay→ Category:Wikipedians in Thunder Bay, OntarioToronto→ Category:Wikipedians in TorontoWaterloo→ Category:Wikipedians in Waterloo, OntarioWindsor→ Category:Wikipedians in Windsor, OntarioUnsorted→ Category:Wikipedians in Ontario
Prince Edward Island→ Category:Wikipedians in Prince Edward IslandSaskatchewan→ Category:Wikipedians in SaskatchewanYukon→ Category:Wikipedians in the Yukonexpatriates→ Category:Canadian Wikipedian Expatriatesundetermined→ Category:Wikipedians somewhere undetermined in Canada- There is also a large comments and discussion section of Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Canada that should see replication somewhere appropriate.
- Caribbean → Category:Caribbean Wikipedians
Catalonia→ Category:Wikipedians in Catalonia (divided between Spain, Andorra and France)- Chechnya (breakaway Russian republic): See #Chechnya
Chile→ Category:Chilean WikipediansChina→ Category:Wikipedians in China (includes Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau) - another one that will take some time and workPeople's Republic of China→ Category:Wikipedians in the People's Republic of ChinaMainland China→ Category:Wikipedians in Mainland ChinaBeijing→ Category:Wikipedians in BeijingGuangdong→ Category:Wikipedians in GuangdongGuangxi→ Category:Wikipedians in GuangxiHebei→ Category:Wikipedians in HebeiHeilongjiang→ Category:Wikipedians in HeilongjiangHenan→ Category:Wikipedians in HenanHunan→ Category:Wikipedians in HunanJiangsu→ Category:Wikipedians in JiangsuJiangxi→ Category:Wikipedians in JiangxiSichuan→ Category:Wikipedians in SichuanShanghai→ Category:Wikipedians in ShanghaiXinjiang→ Category:Wikipedians in XinjiangYunnan→ Category:Wikipedians in Yunnan
Republic of China(includes Taiwan, Pescadores, Quemoy, and Matsu) → Category:Wikipedians in the Republic of China-
Taiwan#Hsinchu→ Category:Wikipedians in HsinchuTaiwan#Yilan County→ Category:Wikipedians in Yilan CountyTaiwan#Pingtung County→ Category:Wikipedians in Pingtung CountyTaiwan#Taichung County→ Category:Wikipedians in Taichung CountyTaiwan#Taipei→ Category:Wikipedians in TaipeiTaiwan#Expatriate→ Category:Taiwanese Wikipedians Overseas
- Category:Wikipedians in the Pescadores Islands
- Category:Wikipedians in Quemoy
- Category:Wikipedians in Matsu
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Chinese overseas→ Category:Chinese Wikipedians overseas'Unassorted' Chinese→ Category:Wikipedians in China
Colombia→ Category:Wikipedians in ColombiaCosta Rica→ Category:Wikipedians of Costa RicaCôte d'Ivoire→ Category:Wikipedians in Côte d'IvoireCroatia→ Category:Wikipedians in CroatiaCuba→ Category:Wikipedians in CubaCyprus(includes Northern Cyprus) → Category:Wikipedians in CyprusCzech Republic→ Category:Wikipedians in the Czech Republic
D
[edit]E
[edit]East Timor→ Category:Wikipedians in East Timor - may need additional classificationEcuador→ Category:Wikipedians in EcuadorEgypt→ Category:Wikipedians in EgyptEl Salvador→ Category:Wikipedians in El Salvador - may need additional classification- England: See #England
Estonia→ Category:Wikipedians in EstoniaEurope→ Category:Wikipedians in Europe
F
[edit]- Faroe Islands: See #Faroe Islands
Fiji→ Category:Wikipedians in Fiji- Finland → Category:Wikipedians in Finland
- France → Category:Wikipedians in France
FYROM→ Category:Wikipedians in Macedonia - may need additional classification
G
[edit]Georgia→ Category:Wikipedians in GeorgiaGermany→ Category:Wikipedians in GermanyGhana→ Category:Wikipedians in GhanaGreece→ Category:Wikipedians in Greece- Guadeloupe (an overseas department of France): See #Guadeloupe
H
[edit]Honduras→ Category:Wikipedians in Honduras- Hong Kong (a special administrative region of the People's Republic of China): See #Hong Kong
Hungary→ Category:Wikipedians in Hungary
I
[edit]Iceland→ Category:Wikipedians in Iceland- India → Category:Indian Wikipedians
- Indonesia → Category:Wikipedians in Indonesia
- Iran → Category:Wikipedians in Iran
Iraq→ Category:Wikipedians in Iraq- Ireland → Category:Wikipedians in Ireland
Israel→ Category:Israeli WikipediansItaly→ Category:Wikipedians in Italy
J
[edit]Jamaica→ Category:Wikipedians in Jamaica- Japan → Category:Wikipedians in Japan
Jordan→ Category:Wikipedians in Jordan
K
[edit]Korea→ Category:Wikipedians in Korea (including both sides of the Korean peninsula, North Korea and South Korea)
L
[edit]Latvia→ Category:Wikipedians in LatviaLebanon→ Category:Wikipedians in LebanonLiberia→ Category:Wikipedians in LiberiaLibya→ Category:Wikipedians in LibyaLithuania→ Category:Wikipedians in LithuaniaLuxembourg→ Category:Wikipedians in Luxembourg
M
[edit]- Macao (a special administrative region of the People's Republic of China): See
#Macao Macedonia→ Category:Wikipedians in Macedonia- Malaysia → Category:Wikipedians in Malaysia
Maldives→ Category:Wikipedians in MaldivesMalta→ Category:Wikipedians in Malta- Mexico → Category:Wikipedians in Mexico
Moldova→ Category:Wikipedians in MoldovaMongolia→ Category:Wikipedians in MongoliaMorocco→ Category:Wikipedians in MoroccoMyanmar→ Category:Wikipedians in Myanmar
N
[edit]Nepal→ Category:Wikipedians in Nepal- Netherlands → Category:Wikipedians in the Netherlands
- New Zealand → Category:Wikipedians in New Zealand
Nigeria→ Category:Wikipedians in Nigeria- Northern Ireland: See #Northern Ireland
Norway→ Category:Wikipedians in Norway
O
[edit]Occitan→ Category:Wikipedians in Occitan (divided between Spain, Andorra, Italy and France)- Ontario: See #Ontario
P
[edit]Palestine→ Category:Wikipedians in Palestine- Pakistan → Category:Wikipedians in Pakistan
Paraguay→ Category:Wikipedians in Paraguay- Peru → Category:Peruvian Wikipedians
Philippines→ Category:Filipino Wikipedians- Pitcairn Islands (UK colony): See #Pitcairn Islands
- Poland → Category:Wikipedians in Poland
- Portugal → Category:Wikipedians in Portugal
- Puerto Rico: See #Puerto Rico
Q
[edit]- Québec: See #Quebec
R
[edit]- Romania → Category:Wikipedians in Romania
- Russia → Category:Wikipedians in Russia
Chechnya→ Category:Wikipedians in Chechnya (breakaway Russian republic)
S
[edit]Saint Lucia→ Category:Wikipedians in Saint LuciaSan Marino→ Category:Wikipedians in San MarinoSaudi Arabia→ Category:Wikipedians in Saudi Arabia- Scotland: See #Scotland
Serbia and Montenegro→ Category:Wikipedians in Serbia and Montenegro- Singapore → Category:Wikipedians in Singapore
Slovenia→ Category:Wikipedians in Slovenia- Slovakia→ Category:Wikipedians in Slovakia
- South Africa → Category:Wikipedians in South Africa
South Korea→ Category:Wikipedians in South Korea- Spain → Category:Wikipedians in Spain
Sri Lanka→ Category:Wikipedians in Sri LankaSuriname→ Category:Wikipedians in Suriname- Sweden → Category:Swedish Wikipedians
Switzerland→ Category:Wikipedians in SwitzerlandSyria→ Category:Wikipedians in Syria
T
[edit]- Taiwan: See
#Taiwan - Thailand → Category:Wikipedians in Thailand
Trinidad and Tobago→ Category:Wikipedians in Trinidad and Tobago- Turkey → Category:Wikipedians in Turkey
U
[edit]Uganda→ Category:Wikipedians in UgandaUkraine→ Category:Wikipedians in UkraineUnited Arab Emirates→ Category:Wikipedians in United Arab Emirates- United Kingdom → Category:Wikipedians in the United Kingdom
- United States of America → Category:Wikipedians in the United States
- Each state also needs to be completed:
Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Alabama→ Category:Wikipedians in AlabamaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Alaska→ Category:Wikipedians in AlaskaWikipedia:Wikipedians/American Samoa→ Category:Wikipedians in American SamoaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Arizona→ Category:Wikipedians in ArizonaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Arkansas→ Category:Wikipedians in Arkansas- California → Category:Wikipedians in California - This one needs some time and help! (see talk page)
Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Colorado→ Category:Wikipedians in ColoradoWikipedia:Wikipedians/Connecticut→ Category:Wikipedians in ConnecticutWikipedia:Wikipedians/Delaware→ Category:Wikipedians in DelawareWikipedia:Wikipedians/District of Columbia→ Category:Wikipedians in District of ColumbiaFlorida→ Category:Wikipedians in FloridaWikipedia:Wikipedians/Georgia→ Category:Wikipedians in Georgia, USAWikipedia:Wikipedians/Guam→ Category:Wikipedians in GuamHawaii→ Category:Wikipedians in HawaiiIdaho→ Category:Wikipedians in Idaho- Illinois → Category:Wikipedians in Illinois
- Indiana → Category:Wikipedians in Indiana
- Iowa → Category:Wikipedians in Iowa
Kansas→ Category:Wikipedians in KansasKentucky→ Category:Wikipedians in Kentucky- Louisiana → Category:Wikipedians in Louisiana
- Maine → Category:Wikipedians in Maine
- Maryland → Category:Wikipedians in Maryland
- Massachusetts → Category:Wikipedians in Massachusetts
- Michigan → Category:Wikipedians in Michigan
- Minnesota → Category:Wikipedians in Minnesota
Mississippi→ Category:Wikipedians in Mississippi- Missouri → Category:Wikipedians in Missouri
Montana→ Category:Wikipedians in Montana- Nebraska → Category:Wikipedians in Nebraska
Nevada→ Category:Wikipedians in Nevada- New Hampshire → Category:Wikipedians in New Hampshire
New Mexico→ Category:Wikipedians in New MexicoNew Jersey→ Category:Wikipedians in New Jersey- New York → Category:Wikipedians in New York (state)
- North Carolina → Category:Wikipedians in North Carolina
North Dakota→ Category:Wikipedians in North DakotaNorthern Mariana Islands→ Category:Wikipedians in Northern Mariana Islands- Ohio → Category:Wikipedians in Ohio
Oklahoma→ Category:Wikipedians in OklahomaOregon→ Category:Wikipedians in Oregon- Pennsylvania → Category:Wikipedians in Pennsylvania
Rhode Island→ Category:Wikipedians in Rhode IslandSouth Carolina→ Category:Wikipedians in South CarolinaSouth Dakota→ Category:Wikipedians in South Dakota- Tennessee → Category:Wikipedians in Tennessee — Notified all users listed Roby Wayne Talk • Hist 07:20, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Texas → Category:Wikipedians in Texas or Category:Wikipedians from Texas
U.S. Virgin Islands→ Category:Wikipedians in U.S. Virgin IslandsUtah→ Category:Wikipedians in UtahVermont→ Category:Wikipedians in Vermont- Virginia → Category:Wikipedians in Virginia - all users notified, waiting for list to clear -skraz (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Washington → Category:Wikipedians in Washington — Notified all users listed Roby Wayne Talk • Hist 07:20, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
West Virginia→ Category:Wikipedians in West VirginiaWisconsin→ Category:Wikipedians in WisconsinWyoming→ Category:Wikipedians in Wyoming- Somewhere unspecified in the United States of America → Category:Wikipedians somewhere unspecified in the United States
Uruguay→ Category:Wikipedians in Uruguay
V
[edit]Venezuela→ Category:Wikipedians in Venezuela- Vietnam → Category:Wikipedians in Vietnam -- Notified all users on this list -- Gurch 17:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
W
[edit]- Wales: See #Wales
Other conversions
[edit]- Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by language → Category:Wikipedians by language
- Possibly more from Wikipedia:Wikipedians
- Wikipedia:Wikipedians_by_alma_mater → Category:Wikipedians who have graduated from college
- The sub-pages use "by alma mater", that is Category:Wikipedians by alma mater.
Categories to remove
[edit]There are some duplicates and misc. other such garbage lying around that needs to be taken care of at some point. If you are an administrator, it would be greatly appreciated if you would consider deleting some of the pages listed below. Also, if anyone sees red links in the left column, the line can be removed. Thanks!
Categories named differently from others
[edit]It has not been agreed what to name these, but they are different, and should be renamed once a consensus on naming style has been achieved (see Wikipedia_talk:Category_titles).
- Category:Wikipedians of Argentina (→ Category:Wikipedians in Argentina)
- Category:Wikipedians of Mexico (→ Category:Wikipedians in Mexico)
- Category:Wikipedians of Costa Rica (→ Category:Wikipedians in Costa Rica)
- Category:Indian Wikipedians
- Category:Hong Kong Wikipedians
- Category:Israeli Wikipedians
- Category:Peruvian Wikipedians
- Category:Russian Wikipedians
Use Usercat templates
[edit]Alphabetical sections, mark bold when everything under that section is using the Usercat templates (except those listed below):
#A #B #C #D #E #F #G #H #I #J #K #L #M #N #O #P #Q #R #S #T #U #V #W
These don't have Wikipedia:Wikipedians subpages, so can't use templates on them while a link to that is shown.
These need to do country link disambiguation:
These pages (and several others) need to handle several parents.
- Category:Wikipedians in Aruba
- Category:Wikipedians in Basque Country
- Category:Wikipedians in Catalonia
Cleanup
[edit]The pages we are replacing will need some cleaning up as things come along. For example, the Wikipedia:Wikipedians page has the full listing of countries with links to its subpage lists and also accompanying links to the new categories. This should eventually be cleaned up to reflect the new system so that the page doesn't look like such a mess (that is it should simply refer to Category:Wikipedians by location rather than having a huge list of pages). For now, however, it might make sense to leave the list up as a reflection of the progress being made here. That said, as things are completed through this project, the changes should be noted not only here, but in the appropriate page where the old list was linked.
It will also be a good idea to check out the What links here pages and try to correct any links to pages such as Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Acadia by replacing them with a link to the new category, in this example Category:Wikipedians in Acadia. This will help from creating such a chaotic mess of dysfunctional links while this project is still in progress.
Please see Wikipedia:User categorisation/link cleanup for this.