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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 00:23, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of this template is unclear. It seems it is no longer used by the 1.0 team and many of its features are marked historical. I asked User:Walkerma and he said it is not being used nowadays. Therefore we could save a bit of space on talk pages and remove it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:06, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: there was a possible use in this template to assess an article was not associated with any WikiProjects. Now we can use {{WikiProject banner shell}} on its own with a |class= parameter in these cases. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:07, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:12, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single-article family tree with no template parameters. Copy into article and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single-article table with no template parameters. Copy into article and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A quick search through WhatLinksHere suggests that instances of this templates use which have a reason parameter would be better served by {{globalize}} or lack the basis in systemic bias to not just use {{NPOV}}. Even in theory, I have problems with this template: we operate off verifiability, not truth, and whilst systemic bias can undermine our policies (hence the existence of the Wikiproject), some talk page topics suggest that people believe allegations of bias should allow them to ignore reliable sources.

At the very least, force use of the reason parameter, and delete all instances where it isn’t used. Mach61 (talk) 03:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Leaning delete, because this is vague and based on an NPoV-related essay, not the NPoV policy. But replace with {{Globalize}} or some other template, in most cases. The template was put on a page for a reason, and the reasons doesn't go away just because the template does. There are only 64 transclusions of this, so figuring out whether it's a {{Globalize}} or a {{NPOV}} or whatever, on a page-by-page basis, shouldn't be terribly hard (though remove it entirely if no clear issue is apparent from a |reason= or a talk page thread or just looking at the content). I can do some of that if the consensus reached is to delete this (or merge it to some other template, or otherwise not just leave it as-is).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  03:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Uw-forum series

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The result of the discussion was redirect. Izno (talk) 18:09, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The uw-forum templates are redundant to {{Uw-chat1}} and others, which are used by Twinkle and RedWarn/Ultraviolet. Both series of user warning templates warn users about using talk pages as forums. Eyesnore talk💬 04:14, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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