Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 October 16

October 16

BFI templates and categories

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:BFI (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:BFI person (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Category:BFI template with ID different from Wikidata (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Category:BFI template with ID not in Wikidata (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Category:BFI template missing ID and not in Wikidata (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

BFI (British Film Institute) recently changed their film database. The templates no longer work and can not be made to work because there is no way to automatically map between old and new databases, and often such 1:1 connections don't even exist. The templates have been removed from all articles and are no longer in use, there were about 1,250 instances emitting link rot. Now fixed: example. The tracking categories were created for the templates, and only populated by the templates, they are no longer required. Other non-{{BFI}} links to bfi.org.uk - such as in a {{cite web}} or regular square links - have already been fixed, there were over 16,000 instances. -- GreenC 20:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Ds/aware

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Ds/aware (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This module is marked as deprecated but is still used in MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-DS and MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-galobtter-test (and a few other archived pages). It's not stated what has replaced it, but Module:Ds/aware's talk page redirects to Template talk:Ds/aware, which main page redirects to Template:Contentious topics/aware, which uses Module:Contentious topics/aware. So once the usages of this module are replaced and the module deleted, the redirects need to be sorted out so that Template talk:Contentious topics/aware is the target talk page. Gonnym (talk) 11:19, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History merge to Module:Contentious topics/aware and then delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Merge per nomination and Pppery. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Photographic techniques

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Photographic techniques (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There is no reason to deprecate navigation templates like this. If this was replaced just delete it. Subst to the single talk page where it is still used. Gonnym (talk) 11:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect after substing the old usage. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:WikiProject Sports facilities task force

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Sports facilities task force (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A task force template. Should be replaced with {{WikiProject Event Venues|sports=yes}}. Gonnym (talk) 08:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the task force also lists as parent project WPSPORTS. Thus, any replacement of this template should also include {{WPSPORTS}}, and the taskforce should also be added as a flag on both these project templates (ie. {{WikiProject Sport|facility=y}} or {{WikiProject Sports|venue=y}} ) -- 65.92.244.127 (talk) 08:49, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Replace per nomination. It could be part of both Event Venues and Sports projects. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Alphabet Task Force

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Alphabet Task Force (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A task force template. Should be replaced with {{WikiProject Google|alphabet=yes}}. Gonnym (talk) 08:11, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Replace per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Timeline Ubuntu Linux

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Timeline Ubuntu Linux (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only used in Ubuntu version history Aaron Liu (talk) 01:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose the deletion proposal. It remains useful for viewers to understand the history of releases and how long they are/were supported. Just include this in the ubuntu article itself, if necessary. Furthermore, this is not the only template although; see Category:Computing graphical timeline templates.197.26.160.169 (talk) 16:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. I'm not proposing to never use its current content again, I'm proposing to move the current content into the article instead of through template. Per WP:TG Templates that… become orphaned or used on only one page… may be nominated for deletion.
2. Most of the templates in that category are used in more than one page.
3. Where would you put the template? It doesn’t seem particularly important to the parent article. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:23, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know there is a particular user who is actively in charge of updating the template. Do you have any opinions based on the proposed changes, mister ahunt?197.14.103.60 (talk) 08:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus… it appears that Ahunt has permanently retired last month after frustration with battleground behavior. We are unlikely to get an answer… Aaron Liu (talk) 18:23, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another casualty of AfD. Needs reform to be more civil we can't keep loosing good long-term vets like this. (sorry OT) -- GreenC 18:36, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not fair. That user had been always updating linux-related articles and templates, like this one. Tell him to come back now and focus on this debate. I understand that he had participated in multiple debates related to aircraft and sailboats. This user just never participated in any software-related debates. If the user insists to not coming back, tell bilCat, its best pal on WP, to join instead.102.156.111.173 (talk) 11:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editors do not have jobs, you can't just tell them to come back. If you check his user page you'll find that BilCat has also retired five days ago. I do not know why you insist on keeping this template that much, could you state your reasons yourself? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:07, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What the AcTuAl hEcK in the world is going on??!! How could both notable, WP:GOODFAITH users be retiring before or when you've started this proposal? This is getting serious. Please invite (or ping) other users who are specialized in editing or formatting WP:COMPUTER-related articles/pages.102.156.111.173 (talk) 12:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another possible reason Y such template is separated is to reduce the size of the page itself. The template's current size is 13 805 bytes before nomination. Deleting this template and merging the contents onto ubuntu version history would, of course, increase the article from its current size, which is 148 524 bytes.102.156.111.173 (talk) 12:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TG says Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. I don’t see why we need to separate the page size, almost nobody edits the entire article at once and the servers can definitely handle this. As for “how” this is happening… people have been leaving Wikipedia since 2005. Why are you vehemently trying to find someone to defend keeping this template? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Subst and delete as single-use. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.