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Template:Infobox CHL season

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox sports season. ✗plicit 23:42, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox CHL season with Template:Infobox sports season.
{{Infobox CHL season}} has nothing unique about it that separates it from {{Infobox sports season}}. It simply calls {{Infobox sports season}} and reiterates the arguments. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:31, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tuca & Bertie

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NENAN and WP:TOOSOON. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Mila Mason

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 26. ✗plicit 23:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Darken1

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2008, and does not appear to have been adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It has been used, then substituted (with #subst). And it is still useful for that usage. It helps computing palettes, as documented (with the safesubst parameter). verdy_p (talk) 15:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also NEVER place a Tfd banner at top, inside the transcluded content of the template, ONLY in its "noinclude" section. Thanks! verdy_p (talk) 15:19, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The template has no transclusions. If the template is intended to be used only as a substitution template, please add {{subst only}} to the top of the documentation, and I'll be happy to withdraw the nomination. The same goes for the other Darken template. As for the TFD banner, you'll have to take that up with the instructions on this page and the developers of Twinkle, who follow these instructions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The "Tfd" banner MUST NEVER be inserted in a template outside a noinclude section, and notably NEVER when the template does not generate a text meant to be visible.
As documented, this template is used to generate style fragments in CSS or in attributes (part of RGB colors): posting HTML elements there generate invalid CSS or invalid HTML attribute.
Remember that this is a helper template. It has been (and is still) used to build statistic tables or graphs with colors from computed values (from a percentage). "Darken1" itself is used inside "Darken", and Darken works exactly like "Lighten", they are correlated and documented the same way.
Using "safesubst" (added in these templates since 2010, the templates were created and first documented in 2007) is optional: safesubst will not be used for contents like statistics that will vary over time but for which we need to have coherent and synchronized coloring. But for static tables that are normally immutable, it can be safe-substituted. So ading "Substonly" to the doc is inaccurate because it is clearly optional !
And the documentation already says since 2010 at the top that these templates "CAN BE substituted" (not "MUST BE").
Note also that some pages that were using it on Commons are now hosted elsewhere (e.g. in Meta, or in other projects). But the tempaltes remain in Commons, because it is still useful for new contents and there's no need to rewrite it and redocument it: deletion would be just a waste of time. verdy_p (talk) 23:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't make up rules on how the TfD banner should be used. Jonesey95 was correct in their usage and even pointed to you to where the instructions are found. If you have any complaints, go there. Gonnym (talk) 13:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, you've been pushing for TfD tags to be noincluded, against consensus, basically for as long as I've been active on Wikipedia. This is counterproductive. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my comments below. Gonnym (talk) 21:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Darken

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2007, does not appear to have been adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It has been used, then substituted (with #subst). And it is still useful for that usage. It helps computing palettes, as documented (with the safesubst parameter). verdy_p (talk) 15:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Various pages are built using it (first without safesubst while editing, then with safesubst if values are stable and colors can be statically precomputed), notably statistics (to colorize table cells).
Also NEVER place a Tfd banner at top, inside the transcluded content of the template, ONLY in its "noinclude" section. Thanks! verdy_p (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm finding it improbable that this template is still used. Templates that aren't auto-subst usually end up with transclusions, while this template does not have any (and neither do any of the other 3 templates in this set). While these might have been used at one point in time, it does not seem they are still used. Gonnym (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I also don't see any real-life use cases for this. Any color usage that is based on a real-life object (sports team, political party, etc) uses the official colors. When one of those colors needs adjusting they should be adjusted for accessibility and color contrast and not randomly made light or dark. If anyone wants to play with colors, there are many, better, sites online that do that. Gonnym (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (and would support deletion of the entire set) per my comments. Not used, no indication that it has anywhere to be used, and if anyone wants to calculate values for something, Google is their friend. Gonnym (talk) 21:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:LatestAfD

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure no one is subst'ing this template? —swpbT • go beyond • bad idea 19:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The template documentation does not indicate that the template is substable or should be substed. Substing the template results in something like {{#if: | {{#invoke:LatestAfD|latestafd|Horseplay (band)|{{{2}}}}} | {{#invoke:LatestAfD|latestafd|Horseplay (band)}} }}. I see no evidence that any such code exists in any namespace. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. I this this template might find use if more people knew it existed; please give me a little time to advertise it. —swpbT • go beyond • bad idea 19:59, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Only used in 3 transclusions, most of them for this template and it's documentation. We would loose nothing if this was deleted. This would be fine for a new template, but it's existed since 2016. Not old at all. Cranloa12n / talk / contribs / 13:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Lakh crore

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2018. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:50, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:LRR reference

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions of this single-source citation template. Created in 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:LCSR

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox station/Header KAI

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused rail infobox template. Gonnym (talk) 15:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:JulianWeekday

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Events at the 2021 Islamic Solidarity Games

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 26. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 15:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Deprecated since 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:JakRLS2

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 15:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in May 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:JULIANDAY.MONTHABBREV

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 26. ✗plicit 15:00, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:JDtoGreg

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:58, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Isotype money euros

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links. Created in 2014. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:51, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ireland Labelled Map

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Map template created for a 2008 talk page proposal and not adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Iran nuke plant map

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Map proposed in 2007 for an article that was never created. Transcluded in one talk page discussion. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Venerisian federal subject

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a fork of {{Infobox settlement}} Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Interwiki issue

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 26. ✗plicit 14:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Interval vector

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2014. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:53, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Interproject box

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2018. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Internet Explorer usage share

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed for use in a 2016 discussion, but the participants never got it to work. Meanwhile, File:Internet-explorer-usage-data.svg continues to be updated occasionally and is used in the relevant article. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:International recognition of the Republic of Kosovo

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions except in a 2008 page asking for help with the template. Replaced with an image and legend in the relevant article. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:49, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Interlinear-nb

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:18, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2009. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:39, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Intentionally blank section

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in mid-2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infrared row

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 26. ✗plicit 14:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox station/Header JR East

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Appears to be an abandoned experiment from early 2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox sports series scores

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:14, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Created in 2017. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox mahjong

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:14, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or documentation. Appears to be an abandoned experiment from 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Latest stable software release/Aqualung

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The target article was deleted at AfD as non-notable. SL93 (talk) 09:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:RER color

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:04, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Réseau Express Régional. Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Madrid Metro color

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:04, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Madrid Metro. Gonnym (talk) 07:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:KSR color

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:03, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/KSR. Gonnym (talk) 06:59, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Earthquake energy class

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. It appears that {{Earthquake magnitude}} may be sufficient to meet the need. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:01, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "energy class" (K) scale of EQ strength was developed by Soviet seismologists, and became the predominant scale used in the Soviet Union and allied states (like Cuba). It is based on the actual energy of an earthquake, instead of the magnitude of an instrumental effect such as Richter based his "magnitude" (M) scales on. To suggest that energy scale is not needed because M scales "may be sufficient to meet the need" is like saying that the Kelvin temperature scale is not needed because it is hardly used and the Fahrenheit scale "may be sufficient".
The lack of transclusions reflects en.wp's predominately Western orientation, and possibly non-awareness that this template exists. When some Anglophone editor eventually has a need to express "K" this template should be available as a standard, vetted usage. And without a template to track these kinds of things how do we know that occasions have not occurred where this template could have been used but the editor was not aware of the existence of this template?
A further reason for keeping this template is for the benefit of other wikis in countries where the energy class scale is used, so they don't have to re-invent this template.
(I am not longer active here, and will not see any replies or questions unless they are posted to my talk page.)
♦ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 04:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:59, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused but also very unnecessary split of documentation page. Even if it were still used, I'd say subst to actual /doc and delete. Gonnym (talk) 06:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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