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Template:Elvis' Christmas Album tracks

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:42, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Elvis' Christmas Album tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Transcluded in only two articles, this track list template does not serve its purpose if none of the other songs use it. Since most of the other songs are well-known and well-covered Christmas songs, there'd be no reason to add this template to them. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 18:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

delete per prior precedent; redundant navigation. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 01:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Gwen Stefani album track list templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:42, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Love. Angel. Music. Baby. tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:The Sweet Escape tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:This Is What the Truth Feels Like tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:You Make It Feel Like Christmas tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Another set of track list templates that are simply redundant to the navigation within a single navbox, in this case {{Gwen Stefani songs}}. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 18:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars I understand your point, but the reason I created these templates was because on the mobile version of Wikipedia, the {{Gwen Stefani songs}} template is not visible to the viewer. When the parent album track list template is added to the article, the corresponding album and its list of songs is. If these templates get deleted, the mobile viewer loses access to these lists. Carbrera (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]

So all Navboxes are useless on Mobile devices? Readers certainly don't need a track list for an album on every song article because you can already link to the album from the infobox without it. The one for the Christmas album is completely unnecessary though since it's only in two articles and you'd never include in Jingle Bells, Winter Wonderland, etc. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why aren't the others fully utilized? They have 10, 6, and 5 links but only 3, 1, and 2 transclusions, respectively. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 22:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars – The singles on the albums you mentioned already included single chronology templates. These templates were included to benefit articles on songs that weren't released as singles. Not too long agao, a now-depreciated track listing/chronology template was used to document the chronology of the songs in a track listing, but like I said, this can no longer be the case. I'm not insinuating in the slightest that "all Navboxes are useless on Mobile devices" but they don't serve any purpose to the reader when they're not even visible, hence the creation of these templates. Per this edit, the You Make It Feel Like Christmas template is even more beneficial for the article as {{Gwen Stefani songs}} only lists a singer's covers if they are deemed notable. Carbrera (talk) 22:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]

But such navigational templates should provide two-way navigation and they don't. If the track list/chronology is deprecated, this just seems to be a way around that. Anyway, I would think the best way to navigate through songs on an album is through the album article itself. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars – I don't mean to sound rude, but if given the rationale that "the best way to navigate through songs on an album is through the album article itself", then why does this very template exist in the first place? Carbrera (talk) 23:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]

You're not being rude at all, but I believe they started years ago when they were added to song articles from Beatles and Pink Floyd albums since all the songs would have articles and there'd be a navigational benefit to and from each song to every other song on the album. Eventually, though, they were all deleted because of their redundancy to existing navboxes (see WP:TfD/2015 Dec 16). So {{Revolver tracks}} and {{The Dark Side of the Moon tracks}} were deleted in favor of {{Revolver}} and {{The Dark Side of the Moon}}. This precedent was then applied to other track list templates when there was a "Foo songs" navigation box that broke down an artist's songs by album (templates for Chris Brown album track lists were deleted in WP:TfD 2016 Apr 18 because of {{Chris Brown songs}}); in addition, many of these track listing templates exist with only a few songs with actual articles making them insufficient for navigation (like the Westlife templates nominated below). Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:39, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

delete per prior precedent; redundant navigation. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Westlife album track list templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Back Home tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Coast to Coast tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Face to Face tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:The Love Album tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Turnaround tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Westlife (album) tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:World of Our Own tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Initial nomination was for {{The Love Album tracks}}:

A track listing template to place into the infobox of song articles, but this one is transcluded in only one song because the album is an album of cover songs and these aren't notable Westlife songs to include even an infobox for each one nor needed to link to other songs that aren't theirs.

However, there has been precedent through the TfD process of deleting similar templates when there is a navbox which makes navigation through these track listing redundant, and that is the case here with the existence of {{Westlife songs}} which displays each of these songs by album. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

delete per prior precedent; redundant navigation. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete per nom. Albums can contain a list of songs on the articles.--Tom (LT) (talk) 01:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Crane Co.

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The result of the discussion was keep. Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Crane Co. (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template on a questionably WP:N company with limited content. Chetsford (talk) 07:54, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep company is notable. Note that this is running concurrently with AfD. --Tom (LT) (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Template has seven links. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now - template has enough links to justify a navbox. If the parent article is deleted, then let's talk. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 18:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Location map/data/Russia (equirectangular)

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Location map/data/Russia (equirectangular) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and inferior to Module:Location map/data/Russia. Frietjes (talk) 00:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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