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Template:Str find long/logic

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Str find long/logic (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No longer used or needed DannyS712 (talk) 21:08, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cristina D'Avena

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cristina D'Avena (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Violates WP:EXISTING - almost entirely red links DannyS712 (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I created this template because I think to create the articles of her albums in the shortest time possibile. --Greenyellowcable (talk) 19:46, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or userfy. The creator (above) is trying to create articles listed on the navbox. It may be an idea to userfy the navbox to their userspace and then move it out at the point when or if the articles are created. Either way, I don't think it should remain in template namespace until enough articles have been created to fill the navbox. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:59, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not enough links....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:17, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are not enough articles to justify having a navigational template and the articles that do exist are unsourced and might be deleted. Aspects (talk) 23:52, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox province or territory of Canada/population

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox province or territory of Canada/population (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template. Seems this method was replaced at one point. Gonnym (talk) 14:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Is there a Wikipedia policy on these "data storage" templates? BLAIXX 14:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
user:Blaixx, not aware of any. But at least the new templates in Category:Template:Metadata Population are taking their data from Wikidata and don't use local stores anymore. Wikidata is the place for structured data for all WMF projects. 78.55.45.190 (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, especially as the parent template itself should be deleted because it is only used on 13(!) articles. 78.55.45.190 (talk) 17:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox London Borough

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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with {{Infobox settlement}}. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox London Borough (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Replace and delete

Beside one for Helsinki, the only city-specific place infobox wrapper. Use {{Infobox settlement}} directly. 77.11.127.214 (talk) 09:36, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This discussion is similar to Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_15#Template:Infobox_UK_place in that again it has specific code which helps to reduce duplication in article, subpages ({{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity}} this time used 18 times). It also has references automatically added to the title of the ethnicity percentages, other specific templates (including {{United Kingdom statistics year}}, {{English district population}}, {{English district area rank}}), inbuilt switches (mediawiki switch) which helps to reduce duplication in parameters.

This like last time, would lead again to more confusing code (which is more likely to be messed with by a confused new editor, than if it is in a template) being placed in every article which uses it and require overall more maintenance (e.g. updating the name of the GLA (which is shared between multiple boroughs), and updating ethnicity percentages and its source). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 21:13, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FUD. This template is already a wrapper, the other proposal was about converting a template to a wrapper. RE "This discussion is similar to [...] in that again it has specific code" - the discussion has specific code? 77.183.63.89 (talk) 14:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For example:

{{{gla_member}}} AM for {{ #switch: {{{short_name}}}
| Barking and Dagenham = [[City and East (London Assembly constituency)|City and East]]
| Barking & Dagenham = [[City and East (London Assembly constituency)|City and East]]
| Barnet = [[Barnet and Camden (London Assembly constituency)|Barnet and Camden]]
| Brent = [[Brent and Harrow (London Assembly constituency)|Brent and Harrow]]
| Bromley = [[Bexley and Bromley (London Assembly constituency)|Bexley and Bromley]]
| Croydon = [[Croydon and Sutton (London Assembly constituency)|Croydon and Sutton]]
| Camden = [[Barnet and Camden (London Assembly constituency)|Barnet and Camden]]
| Ealing = [[Ealing and Hillingdon (London Assembly constituency)|Ealing and Hillingdon]]
| Kensington and Chelsea = [[West Central (London Assembly constituency)|West Central]]
| Kensington & Chelsea = [[West Central (London Assembly constituency)|West Central]]
| Kingston upon Thames = [[South West (London Assembly constituency)|South West]]
| Kingston = [[South West (London Assembly constituency)|South West]]
| Hammersmith and Fulham = [[West Central (London Assembly constituency)|West Central]]
| Hammersmith & Fulham = [[West Central (London Assembly constituency)|West Central]]
| Hackney = [[North East (London Assembly constituency)|North East]]
| Hounslow = [[South West (London Assembly constituency)|South West]]
| Islington = [[North East (London Assembly constituency)|North East]]
| Lambeth = [[Lambeth and Southwark (London Assembly constituency)|Lambeth and Southwark]]
| Richmond = [[South West (London Assembly constituency)|South West]]
| Merton = [[Merton and Wandsworth (London Assembly constituency)|Merton and Wandsworth]]
| Sutton = [[Croydon and Sutton (London Assembly constituency)|Croydon and Sutton]]
| Southwark = [[Lambeth and Southwark (London Assembly constituency)|Lambeth and Southwark]]
| Tower Hamlets = [[City and East (London Assembly constituency)|City and East]]
| Lewisham = [[Greenwich and Lewisham (London Assembly constituency)|Greenwich and Lewisham]]
| Greenwich = [[Greenwich and Lewisham (London Assembly constituency)|Greenwich and Lewisham]]
| Bexley = [[Bexley and Bromley (London Assembly constituency)|Bexley and Bromley]]
| Havering = [[Havering and Redbridge (London Assembly constituency)|Havering and Redbridge]]
| Redbridge = [[Havering and Redbridge (London Assembly constituency)|Havering and Redbridge]]
| Newham = [[City and East (London Assembly constituency)|City and East]]
| Haringey = [[Enfield and Haringey (London Assembly constituency)|Enfield and Haringey]]
| Enfield = [[Enfield and Haringey (London Assembly constituency)|Enfield and Haringey]]
| Harrow = [[Brent and Harrow (London Assembly constituency)|Brent and Harrow]]
| Hillingdon = [[Ealing and Hillingdon (London Assembly constituency)|Ealing and Hillingdon]]
| Waltham Forest = [[North East (London Assembly constituency)|North East]]
| Wandsworth = [[Merton and Wandsworth (London Assembly constituency)|Merton and Wandsworth]]
| Westminster = [[West Central (London Assembly constituency)|West Central]]
| {{{gla_constituency}}}}}

and

Ethnicity<ref name=LBEthnicPercentages>''[http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rft-table-ks201ew.xls 2011 Census: Ethnic group, local authorities in England and Wales]'', [[Office for National Statistics]] (2012). See [[Classification of ethnicity in the United Kingdom]] for the full descriptions used in the 2011 Census.</ref>
| population_blank1 = {{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|WB}}% [[White British]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|WI}}% [[Irish Briton|White Irish]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|WG}}% White Gypsy or Irish Traveller<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|OW}}% [[White Other (United Kingdom Census)|Other White]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|MWBC}}% White & Black Caribbean<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|MWBA}}% White & Black African<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|MWA}}% White & Asian<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|OM}}% Other Mixed<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|I}}% [[British Indian|Indian]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|P}}% [[British Pakistanis|Pakistani]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|B}}% [[British Bangladeshi|Bangladeshi]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|C}}% [[British Chinese|Chinese]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|OA}}% Other Asian<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|BA}}% [[Black_British#Census_classification|Black African]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|BC}}% [[British African-Caribbean community|Black Caribbean]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|OB}}% Other Black<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|AR}}% [[British Arab|Arab]]<br/>{{Infobox London Borough/ethnicity|{{{short_name}}}|O}}% [[Other ethnic group (United Kingdom Census)|Other]]

These bits of code help to reduce duplication. There are more examples. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 10:35, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also none of this could be supported by the wrapper, as it is highly specific to the boroughs Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 10:36, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FUD. - none of this could be supported by the wrapper - it is already a wrapper and IB settlement can be used with data templates as is done with the wrapper that is proposed to be deleted. 77.11.155.170 (talk) 01:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FUD. - These bits of code help to reduce duplication. - The first example does not even show "help to reduce duplication". The whole switch is superfluous. There are only 32 articles. Insert the values into the articles and delete the switch. 77.11.155.170 (talk) 01:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Note that the articles about other districts of England already transclude Template:Infobox settlement directly. Why an extra infobox template for the 32 articles about London Boroughs? 77.183.63.89 (talk) 14:43, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Replace and delete - no reason for a city-specific wrapper with only 32 transclusions. TerraCyprus (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Replace and delete - there should not be an infobox just for one city. UK currently uses six different infoboxes for places and this has only 32 transclusions. --JelgavaLV (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Justice

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Procedural close; deleted by Athaenara per WP:T3 - log entry. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Justice (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This appears to be a copy of Template:Miscarriage of justice with zero uses, under a title which does not relate to the content. It serves no obvious purpose and after 8 months, I think we can afford to be rid of it. Tagishsimon (talk) 02:40, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per WP:T3. Complete copy-paste of Miscarriage of justice. BLAIXX 14:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:T3 - I've tagged the page --DannyS712 (talk) 16:23, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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