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Template:Swatch different name

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:20, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Swatch different name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unneeded fork of Template:Swatch Frietjes (talk) 18:36, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There must've been some reason I created this. Probably because Swatch worked differently when I created it than it does now p b p 21:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Purplebackpack89 you can see the differences between the templates at the time the "different name" fork was created with this link. all you did was copy it and change the {1} to a {2} which is kind of a pointless reason to fork the template since there is already a |title= parameter for using a "different name" for the caption. Frietjes (talk) 14:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteUnnecessary split. Nihlus 21:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tom Petty

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Nihlus 20:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tom Petty (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Tom Petty with Template:Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
I think users interested in navigating through Petty's music career would want to go through both Heartbreakers and solo work which would be much more beneficial in one NAVBOX. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 22:05, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strong agree Include Mudcrutch and Traveling Wilburys as well. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:19, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply - @Koavf:, a TFD notice should be put on {{Mudcrutch}} and {{Traveling Wilburys}} as well. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Jax 0677: I think the material from TW should be in this template but also in the templates for the individual members. The Mudcrutch one should be merged. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - A separate discussion was opened for Mudcrutch today. Frietjes (talk) 18:53, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merge - Tom Petty has a significant solo career, while {{Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers}} is not insubstantial. The {{Tom Petty}} navbox complies with both WP:NENAN and WP:ANOEP. Should we merge {{Joe Satriani}} into {{Deep Purple}}, or {{White Zombie}} into {{Rob Zombie}}? Should we merge all navboxes that include only songs (like {{Linkin Park songs}}) into those for artists which mention the albums? Is this proposal being considered, because the words "Tom Petty" are contained within "Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers"?

BTW, is anyone going to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bebe & Bassy Tour and fix the icons that are showing up blank? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:18, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

oppose merge, I don't see a significant number of redundant links, and they are different bands. Frietjes (talk) 18:53, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- One is a band but when one thinks of Tom Petty's career work one doesn't distinguish between the solo work and Heartbreakers work as one might do for Paul McCartney and the Beatles or even Phil Collins and Genesis, for example. It is a disservice to readers to not be able to navigate from his solo albums from the Heartbreakers albums. Even the solo work received heavy participation from members of the Heartbreakers. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:27, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. I just created the corresponding navbox on the French Wikipedia and it seemed better to have a single template for solo Petty, Mudcrutch and the Heartbreakers. These two bands are strongly connected to Petty himself, much more than Deep Purple is to Joe Satriani. Besides, Petty's non-Heartbreakers output is sufficiently limited (three releases with Mudcrutch and three as a solo artist) that including it within a single navbox does not make the result too long or complicated; see Palette Tom Petty. (The Wilburys are another matter: since all five band members have dedicated navboxes, some of them very long, I can see why a dedicated navbox makes sense.) – Swa cwæð Ælfgar (talk) 09:58, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - As Ælfgar just said, "all five band members have dedicated navboxes". If we merge these templates, then we must also merge templates {{Linkin Park}} and {{Linkin Park songs}} (and similar song templates).

Again, is anyone going to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bebe & Bassy Tour? --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:51, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Unprod2

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Unprod2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, created by compromised account Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Uw-mmawarning

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-mmawarning (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:13, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:WSHL labelled map

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:20, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WSHL labelled map (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template used on only one page and does not need to be a template. Incorporated the information into the page it was used and no longer needs to exist. Yosemiter (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No reason to be a template at this point. Nihlus 21:15, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox fracture

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox medical condition. (non-admin closure) Nihlus 20:04, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox fracture (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox medical condition (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox fracture with Template:Infobox medical condition.
Makes no sense to keep this as a separate template. The amount of work needed to merge the templates is small and would allow for use of one template across multiple languages. Carl Fredrik^talk 14:06, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:INFOCOL and MOS:IB -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:16, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Have already merged some stuff into Template:Medical resources Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:41, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:INFOCOL. -- The Anome (talk) 20:56, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Libraries in the Western Cape

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Template:Libraries in the Western Cape (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, almost all redlinks, not a good navigational tool given its enormous size Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 14:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Lesotho parliamentary election, 2007

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Lesotho parliamentary election, 2007 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused single-use template Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 14:04, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Number 5 7 08:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Laura and John Arnold Foundation grants by focus area

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Template:Laura and John Arnold Foundation grants by focus area (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Laura and John Arnold Foundation grants by year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Laura and John Arnold Foundation grants focus area and year matrix (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused single-use templates Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 14:00, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Languages of Alberta

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Languages of Alberta (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Manitoba (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_New_Brunswick (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Newfoundland_and_Labrador (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Northwest_Territories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Nova_Scotia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Ontario (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Prince_Edward_Island (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Languages_of_Saskatchewan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All unused. Almost none of these languages is exclusive to the region stated. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please add (non-noincluded} tfd tags to all pages you nominate for deletion. {{repeat|p|3}}ery (talk) 02:35, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Languages of Africa (categories)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Languages of Africa (categories) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, far more redlinks than blue Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, it's actually "Sport Deaths in Africa" under the wrong title. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:01, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Labialized

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Labialized (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:49, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:LGBT rights Australia (summary table)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:LGBT rights Australia (summary table) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, outdated Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:48, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kings of Sheba and Himyar

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 October 20. (non-admin closure) J 947^{^{^{( c ) ^(m)}}} 21:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kings_of_Sheba_and_Himyar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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Template:Kilinahe Family Tree

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kilinahe Family Tree (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, no valid purpose Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:40, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kenyan Women's Premier League seasons

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete WP:CSD#G7 - requested by author. ansh 666 21:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kenyan Women's Premier League seasons (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, outdated, only one valid link Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Thought I'd be following up each season when I first created the template, but thanks to poor management of the league + my procrastination things haven't panned out that way. Only one valid link in the template as pointed out by TenPoundHammer. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 13:34, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kenya squad - 2013 FIBA Africa Championship for Women

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kenya squad - 2013 FIBA Africa Championship for Women (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, all redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete, 10th place squad. the list of squad members is saved in the squads list, so no information is lost if this is deleted. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:EXISTING. Moreover, prior consensus is not to have navboxes for non-medaling national squads.—Bagumba (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kenya squad - 2007 FIBA Africa Championship for Women

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Template:Kenya squad - 2007 FIBA Africa Championship for Women (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, all redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete, 12th place squad. the list of squad members is saved in the squads list, so no information is lost if this is deleted. Frietjes (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:EXISTING. Moreover, prior consensus is not to have navboxes for non-medaling national squads.—Bagumba (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kenya Squad 1994 FIBA World Championship for Women

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kenya Squad 1994 FIBA World Championship for Women (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, all redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete, last place squad. the list of squad members should be saved in the squads list, so no information is lost if this is deleted. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:EXISTING. Moreover, prior consensus is not to have navboxes for non-medaling national squads.—Bagumba (talk) 17:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kazzinc-Torpedo roster

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kazzinc-Torpedo roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, outdated Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 13:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No point keep templates that are not used.—Bagumba (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox holiday

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Nihlus 20:06, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox holiday (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox recurring event (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox holiday with Template:Infobox recurring event.
per WP:INFOCOL and MOS:IB. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 11:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

do not merge, the subtemplate is holiday specific and it would be better to keep the two as separate infoboxes. Frietjes (talk) 14:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS. {{Infobox festival}} is already a redirect to {{Infobox recurring event}}. However, a lot of festival pages use {{Infobox holiday}}. Should festival be redirected to {{Infobox holiday}} then? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:15, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, because festivals aren't holidays, even if some holidays have festivals associated with them. —Farix (t | c) 11:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As already mentioned, names of the mentioned Infoboxes are irrelevant. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 13:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. You've seriously never heard of any recurring event that isn't a holiday? A trade show, a conference, a summit meeting, etc etc etc — Smuckola (talk) 06:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Neither of these infoboxes serve the same purpose or similar topic areas nor do they have any likeness with each other. Which one would you use for an annual fair, convention, or festival? Would you use the same infobox for holidays such as Labor Day, Mother's Day, Christmas, New Years? —Farix (t | c) 11:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll simply use {{Infobox recurring event}}. But let me ask you, which one would you use for Holi, Diwali, Raksha Bandhan, etc.? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 13:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose per the others. ViperSnake151 Talk 19:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose as above. Now can we close this and get rid of the unsightly hatnote that is plaguing all the holiday articles? — Crumpled Fire • contribs • 00:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jargon lede

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The result of the discussion was delete. As a note regarding the lone difference ("article" vs "lead"), {{technical}} contains a code for changing "article" to "section", so it should be trivial to request "lead" also be added to the template. Primefac (talk) 00:19, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jargon lede (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused fork of {{Technical}}. Just use that template instead. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:33, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Snow keep. More "lorem ipsum dolor sit unused" from Hammer. KMF (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Closer, please ignore the personal comments made by KATMAKROFAN. This should be deleted as it is an unused duplication. Nihlus 20:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:International Cricket Captain series

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:International Cricket Captain series (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, all links redirect to parent Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox fictional event

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Template:Infobox fictional event (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, unlikely to be used Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Mexican Cabinet

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Mexican Cabinet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, no reason to keep Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:26, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Indonesian Military Leaders of Indonesian National Revolution (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

mostly redlinks, no parent article Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:25, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, no criteria for "important" Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:13, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, only one link Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hospitals in Rawalpindi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, mostly redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Historical currencies of the Palestinian territories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, contains only one link Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:48, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, mostly redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:47, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hinduism and Indonesia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, listed items do not seem to fit the topic Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hawaiian Falls Waterparks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, everything redirects to the parent Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:40, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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