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The result of the discussion was no consensus. The template has been renamed, a related template has been deleted, and a parent article has been created since the initial nomination. Hence, since so much has changed since the start of the discussion, I am closing this as no consensus, but please feel free to renominate it for deletion. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deaths inspiring Black Lives Matter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There is no article on this subject and the navbox links overlap with those in Template:Deaths inspiring Black Lives Matter. This navbox gives undue prominence to the organization, thus violating WP:NPOV. There are also related WP:OR concerns that I have raised at talk:Black Lives Matter#Deaths inspiring the movement. - MrX 20:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a totally new way of categorizing, it is not completely different. You renamed the template and it still has pretty much all of the same content. Do I really need to post a diff of the two? You have not addressed any of the stated problems in the other TfD and you also attempted to recreate the list that was already deleted under a new article name. ― Padenton|   17:45, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (or at least heavily reformat). I supported keeping {{2010s controversial killings of African Americans}}, and still do, but this one is redundant to that one at best, and more blatantly POV. ('Controversial killings in the 2010s' is fairly neutral, and in theory sourcable and discriminate; 'deaths inspiring Black Lives Matter' is much more of a campaigning phrase, and harder to source reliably.) The only way I think this could be kept is if it was very tightly limited to articles strongly and directly related to Black Lives Matter, and I don't think we have enough of them to justify a navbox. Robofish (talk) 23:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Template has been further reformatted to cover the whole topic of Black Lives Matter, and thus renamed to Template:Black Lives Matter. So, parent article exists. starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 01:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I created the Black Lives Matter article, and have been somewhat concerned that an agenda, promoting an organised movement with "founders" and "chapters", has been pushed, displacing the documentation of the grass-roots and "emergent behaviour" movement, and the use of the slogan by wider the wider movement, along with "Hands Up, Don't Shoot", "I Can't Breathe", and "No Justice, No Peace". All the best: Rich Farmbrough10:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC).
  • renominate, the majority of the comments above are based on duplication (or lack of duplication) with {{2010s controversial killings of African Americans}}. now that that template has been deleted, we should restart the conversation about this template. Frietjes (talk) 13:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was deleteOpabinia regalis (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Princeton Tigers men's soccer coach navbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only links to two managers. A holder of this position does not appear to be inherently notable per either WP:NFOOTY or WP:NCOLLATH, so not sure the extent to which this could be expanded. Either way, currently not a useful aid to navigation Fenix down (talk) 14:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was deleteOpabinia regalis (talk) 07:12, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Country World Weightlifting Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and redundant to {{Infobox country at games}}. Alakzi (talk) 13:59, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was mergePlastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:10, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Country European Athletics Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox Country World Championships in Athletics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox country at games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Country European Athletics Championships with Template:Infobox country at games.
The first two are redundant to the generic {{Infobox country at games}}, with the exception of the IAAF code and national federation labels, for which two new parameters could be added. A side-by-side comparison of {{Infobox Country European Athletics Championships}} and {{Infobox country at games}} can be seen here. Alakzi (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Again I see we are proposing to delete a perfectly good template because a lot of the content is duplicated. I have no allegiance to this template but if it has found an appropriate home, and the merge does require a modification, why is this discussion necessary? We've got better things to do with our time than to try to figure out how to save 1K of data by removing one small template, even if it were an exact duplicate with a different name. Trackinfo (talk) 02:37, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Trackinfo: Participation is optional. This is mostly a formality, so that the merge won't be arbitrarily reverted at some point in the future with the excuse that no consensus had been previously established. The time you've wasted you have done so willingly; you're not required to partake in any part of the merge process. I hope this answers your question. Alakzi (talk) 02:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Trackinfo: We need to remove redundant infoboxes for the reasons explained in Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was deletePlastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:01, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:New Line (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is used solely in New Line Cinema and Time Warner, but only tells us what is already presented in the New Line article. It is a very notable subsidiary of Time Warner, but we do not have templates for every subsidiary of the company. The New Line Cinema infobox does a good enough job of presenting the information shown in this template, as is much more beneficial to the reader being at the top of the article rather than the bottom. Cloudbound (talk) 12:37, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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