Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Szlachta

Szlachta

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Exxess (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. Exxess (talk · contribs)
3. Korwinski (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Szlachta (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

1. • Talk:Szlachta#"Anti-Polish"_Uprising

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

The words "anti-Polish" were placed before Khmelnytsky Uprising in the Szlachta article.

User Korwinski has a peculiar and novel idea the Khmelnytsky Uprising was not anti-Polish, and so deleted the words "anti-Polish."

Ukrainian historian Orest Subtelny, University of Toronto, specifically characterized the Khmelnytsky Uprising as anti-Polish, using the specific words "anti-Polish" in his Cossack-Polish War article,

"Several Cossack detachments advanced west into territories settled mostly by Poles or Belarusians, and anti-noble and anti-Polish revolts also broke out there. ... Zhdanovych tried to hold the anti-Polish front but did not succeed." - https://web.archive.org/web/20180828200830/http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CC%5CO%5CCossack6PolishWar.htm

The Orest Subtelny anti-Polish reference was placed in the article. User Korwinski reverted/deleted the edit containing the reference and the words "anti-Polish."

i undid Korwinski's reversion.

Korwinski undid my reversion, so on and so forth.

According to the references, although Korwinski does not like them and considers himself more authoritative, the Khmelnytsky Uprising was anti-Polish.

There's the Orest Subtelny reference above, and there's also an Encyclopædia Britannica reference, which Korwinski reverted/deleted:

"Tensions stemming from social discontent, religious strife, and Cossack resentment of Polish authority finally coalesced and came to a head in 1648. Beginning with a seemingly typical Cossack revolt, under the leadership of Bohdan Khmelnytsky, Ukraine was quickly engulfed in an unprecedented war and revolution. Khmelnytsky was a petty nobleman and Cossack officer who, unable to obtain justice for wrongs suffered at Polish hands, fled to the Sich in late 1647 and was soon elected hetman." - https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-Cossacks

Korwinski's peculiar and novel position the Khmelnytsky Uprising was NOT anti-Polish seems to be contradicted by an eminent Ukrainian scholar and Encyclopædia Britannica. Krowinski's evidence for his peculiar position is the DELETE BUTTON for references contradicting his novel position, verbiage on the talk page advancing his particular ideas, and no references.

Additional issues (added by other parties)

• Additional issue 1
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. Agree. Exxess (talk) 20:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

• Reject: Fails to satisfy prerequisite for mediation #8, "No related dispute resolution proceedings are active in other Wikipedia forums." The RFC pending at the article talk page constitutes such a proceeding. It should be noted, however, that even if this request had not been rejected for that reason, it would almost certainly have been rejected under prerequisite #9. For the Mediation Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 14:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC) (Chairperson)