Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Magic: The Gathering

Magic: The Gathering

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Leitmotiv (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. CombatWombat42 (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Magic: The Gathering
2. Collectible card game

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

• Talk:Magic: The Gathering#Trusting a games seller or developer to accurately describe it.
• CombatWombat42's talk page
• Leitmotiv's talk page

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

1. Sources state Magic the Gathering is the first CCG in primary and secondary sources. One secondary source states it's the first "modern" CCG but does not offer a precursor nor citations for this claim. CombatWombat42 has edited this in the past on the Collectible card game page almost a year ago, and now again on the Magic: the Gathering page. He has offered no source that provides an example of a non-modern CCG, because none exist.

While this is pending, I have gone an deleted the suspect secondary source from Guinness stating that Magic is a "modern" CCG. The reason being that the source itself is contradictory. While it offers nothing on pre-modern CCGs, in the same breath it also mentions that Magic is the "the origin, indeed the very Genesis, of [CCG]s." So it doesn't know if it is coming or going. Meanwhile mounds of valid secondary sources state Magic is the first CCG, since the new references added note this specific card genre was created in 1993 (with the advent of Magic).

Additional issues (added by other parties)

• Additional issue 1
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. Agree. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

• Reject. Fails to meet prerequisite to mediation #4, "A majority of the parties to the dispute consent to mediation." For the Committee, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC) (Chairperson)