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[edit]Famous people with worse than usual COVID
[edit]Since COVID-19 arose, there have naturally been many news reports of famous people—actors, politicians, athletes, etc., etc.—catching the disease. I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of famous people (for someone's definition of "famous") who have died of COVID. My attempts to google for this specific combination of facts haven't seemed to work.
Also, I'm wondering if there are any famous people who have suffered (or are suffering) long COVID. As I understand it, it's a common enough complication that there ought to be some, but I don't think I've heard of any. --174.89.144.126 (talk) 15:47, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- List of deaths due to COVID-19. --Viennese Waltz 19:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- I've always wanted a shorter version of that cause that's a fuckload of names and I didn't follow the news enough to know if anyone more notable than that guy has died of COVID. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 03:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- "Fame" tends to be localized and subjective, which is why Wikipedia prefers the term "notable". Shantavira|feed me 19:14, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- People with long covid, especially if they are in positions of authority, might choose not to disclose it. It can e.g. cause personality changes ([1] "the rage would come out of nowhere"). There is some theorizing connecting this with odd decisions of Trump, Musk (infected at least twice iirc), Johnson (bad case), Putin (not known to have been infected but he likely wouldn't have told us), and more recently Biden. Of course none of that can be confirmed: it's just a possibility some people like to weigh in with their observations. Meanwhile, CDC director Rochelle Walensky confirmed being infected about a week ago and apparently hasn't been on twitter since then, and Katie Hafner (married to covid pundit Robert M. Wachter) has confirmed having long covid.[2] after attending a 50-person writers' workshop in May 2022[3] where masks were optional.[4] I don't have a usable link but apparently about 1/3 of the attendees got infected (TV news report). Anyway, if you asked about this as part of personal risk assessment, it sounds to me like we should all still stay maximally careful. Avoid crowds, mask up in indoor spaces, etc. 2602:24A:DE47:B8E0:1B43:29FD:A863:33CA (talk) 20:50, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- In the sports world, a famous case is that of Brandon Sutter, ice hockey player with the Vancouver Canucks [5]. A number of otherwise healthy athletes have suffered from myocarditis due to COVID and were incapacitated for long periods as a result. Xuxl (talk) 21:42, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Celebrities We Lost to COVID-19 Modocc (talk) 16:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Well, out of those 55 people, I had only heard of one (the only British person on the list), and I believe my knowledge of celebrities is about average, so they're not famous in the UK. Shantavira|feed me 19:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- You never heard of Colin Powell? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, but otherwise agree with Shantavira, the rest were unknown to me too. This list has some names more familiar to Britons including comedians Bobby Ball and Eddie Large, and of course Captain Tom. But these too are likely to be unknown to those beyond our shores. Alansplodge (talk) 23:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Who the hell are those? And the Colin Powell list too I don't know who the hell a lot of them are. Apparently whoever played Ginger or Mary-Ann on Gilligan's Island is also on the list. And of course Herman Cain who's COVID death was very ironic. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm American and I didn't recognize most of the names. I must be out of touch when it comes to pop culture. Though I don't see that as a problem. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't recognize most of the names too. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 02:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Tom Seaver, Cloris Leachman, Dawn Wells and Charley Pride were medium to big celebrities in my day, you know, when dinosaurs walked the earth. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- All of them I know, though the average Brit might not. Not that many baseball fans in the UK, and possibly not much country music influence. The actors' name recognition would depend on what American films and TV shows they were in which were staples on BBC TV. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Tom Seaver, Cloris Leachman, Dawn Wells and Charley Pride were medium to big celebrities in my day, you know, when dinosaurs walked the earth. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't recognize most of the names too. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 02:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm American and I didn't recognize most of the names. I must be out of touch when it comes to pop culture. Though I don't see that as a problem. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Who the hell are those? And the Colin Powell list too I don't know who the hell a lot of them are. Apparently whoever played Ginger or Mary-Ann on Gilligan's Island is also on the list. And of course Herman Cain who's COVID death was very ironic. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- My score was 5. Celebrityhood is a relative notion. --Lambiam 08:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Jacob de Grom, now that's a famous Met. And Mike Piazza. El Duque. Bobby Valentine. And some Seaver guy from a long time ago. Only the last one died of COVID though. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 09:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I got 9. Colin Powell, Cloris Leachman, Dawn Wells, Charley Pride, Tiny Lister, Herman Cain, Roy Horn, John Prine, and Joe Diffie. Though Cain just barely squeeked onto my radar and I couldn't have told you that Roy even HAD a last name before I read that. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 12:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Aha! Roy of Siegfried & Roy. When I worked in insurance in London, we used to insure his tigers (otherwise I wouldn't have heard of him). Alansplodge (talk) 23:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, but otherwise agree with Shantavira, the rest were unknown to me too. This list has some names more familiar to Britons including comedians Bobby Ball and Eddie Large, and of course Captain Tom. But these too are likely to be unknown to those beyond our shores. Alansplodge (talk) 23:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- You never heard of Colin Powell? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Well, out of those 55 people, I had only heard of one (the only British person on the list), and I believe my knowledge of celebrities is about average, so they're not famous in the UK. Shantavira|feed me 19:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers. (I am quite aware of the problems with defining and researching such a list.) --174.89.144.126 (talk) 06:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Which is why the original article works better. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Which "original article" works better than what? --174.89.144.126 (talk) 15:33, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Which was the first of the answers that I thanked people for, but is unsatisfactory because it's too inclusive. --174.89.144.126 (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- As a 70 year old American, I think that Colin Powell, Cloris Leachman, Tom Seaver, Herman Cain, Charley Pride, Annie Glenn, Roy Horn, John Prine and Joe Diffie qualify as minor celebrities, at least in my book. I know about George Whitmore only because I am a mountaineering buff. I vaguely remember Dawn Wells because I am old. The rest are not celebrities or stars in my estimation. Cullen328 (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2022 (UTC)