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[edit]What's this violin song?
[edit]Reminds me of the Imperial March and the Funeral March but not close to either. More upbeat than the Funeral March and faster. My guess is 1700s to Beethoven era. Not staccato or fast like Vivaldi's Winter (or that season that sounds like everyone's rushing through last second Christmas shopping 18th century style). It might be an anthem I heard in the Olympics. Or from the Red Violin or a Mozart movie. Or maybe not, I haven't seen those films in over a decade. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- That'a an outstanding collection of contradictory and/or ambiguous clues. 1700s to Beethoven era cannot sit in the same ball park as The Red Violin, which was by John Corigliano, who is very much alive. As it's "not close" to either the Imperial March or the Funeral March, what is it about those pieces that reminds you of it? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Some of the movie was set in that time period and had music of its style. National anthems can predate the Olympics. The range of the 8-10 notes I remembered is small (A# or B — D or D# if my whistle to frequency app's any good) (the phone's been dropped so much it effed up the microphone so take that with a grain of salt)). First note, then up 2 or 3 semitones, then play 1 semitone above that 3-4 times (quicker notes), then down to 1 flat below Note 1 in a few steps, then first note's pitch again. It sounds a bit ominous but not as much as the Imperial/Funeral March. If it's a national anthem I heard at the Olympics it's one of the more martial ones of the post-fascist era (I don't actually know what the Nazi/Vichy/Tojo/Franco etc. anthems sound like, they might actually be mild like Mussolini's instead of super-martial like the Imperial March for all I know). I'd be more exact but Vivaldi's rushing Christmas shoppers song became an earworm for awhile and I forgot the tune I'm asking about after that. It's bowed, not plucked. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Suggest you try Musipedia.--Shantavira|feed me 09:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Am I missing something, Sagittarian Milky Way? Did you link to the clip? Otherwise it's a bit hard to see how we might be able to help. --ColinFine (talk) 10:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not even sure that's where I heard it. More information above. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Where's that? At no point above have you either linked to the piece in question or mentioned which movie you heard it in. Is this a telepathy test? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 13:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- In lieu of anything resembling Musical notation we are asked to recognize "something ominous" that goes First note, then up 2 or 3 semitones, then play 1 semitone above that 3-4 times... Nothing could be more......satisfactory. AllBestFaith (talk) 14:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Where's that? At no point above have you either linked to the piece in question or mentioned which movie you heard it in. Is this a telepathy test? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 13:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not even sure that's where I heard it. More information above. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hey User:Sagittarian Milky Way, I can't help, but unlike the others, I don't think you're totally crazy for asking, or for thinking that someone might be able to answer based on description. This kind of thing gets solved regularly on Ask Metafilter. You can try there and I give it roughly even odds of getting you the right answer, but it will cost you $5 for your lifetime account. SemanticMantis (talk) 20:57, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Maybe later. I'm on maximum save mode till September. I realized there would be a high chance no one knew (at least @ WP:RD). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Professions that get out from the office
[edit]Why aren't there many stable professions that don't involve being chained to a desk or cubicle all day, other than doctors? 2A02:C7D:B954:1900:7076:5C65:BDAA:C722 (talk) 16:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- But there are. See List of professions.--Shantavira|feed me 17:12, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- It's kind of hard to skim that list for things that don't largely involve sitting at a desk. Off the top of my head:Park ranger, Surveyor, health inspector, police officer, fireman, EMT, paramedic. SemanticMantis (talk) 17:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- There are indeed many jobs that don't demand sitting at a desk most of the day, but you're not wrong to think that desk jobs are very common. Here [1] is some NPR reporting on the stats from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. While not explicitly sorted by "desk job", the chart makes it easy to see that most Americans' employment involves a lot of sitting at a desk, and that this percentage has probably grown a bit since 1972 (e.g. manufacturing dropped from 23% to 9% in that period). As to why - I'm not sure. Probably something to do with capitalism and a move away from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. These stats are for USA but UK, AU, and CA have all seen decline in manufacturing jobs over the past 50 years. SemanticMantis (talk) 17:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- There seems to be some confusion here: the author of Shantavira's list (and I) would recognise very few of SemanticMantis's list of jobs as "professions". Professions, in our view, are generally prestigious jobs, and societies frequently attach more prestige to sedentary occupations. Nothing to do with the shift to a service economy. HenryFlower 17:59, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
a digression on the semantics of "profession"
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