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May 5

sibling rivalry

In a conversation about music, my sister brought up Misa Criolla, which she insists on pronouncing /kriˈoxa/. Is there really a dialect of Spanish in which ll is pronounced like x? —Tamfang (talk) 23:30, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A quick scan didn't find what you're looking for, but you might want to check out Spanish dialects and varieties. 2606:A000:1126:28D:9C3C:E8AA:C8E4:28F1 (talk) 03:08, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We have article Ll on the digraph in various languages... AnonMoos (talk) 11:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The double ll sound in Spanish is generally pronounced as a y sound such as the name Villalobos is pronounced Vee-a-low-boss. Criollia would therefore be pronounced Cree-o-ear

I've heard the "y" sound pronounced like the French "j", like kind of a "zh". Haven't heard it like an "x", though that doesn't prove anything. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

From the article AnonMoos linked: Today, most Spanish speakers outside of Spain pronounce ll as virtually the same sound as y, a phenomenon called yeísmo. As a result, in most Spanish-speaking parts of the Americas as well as in many regions of Spain, Spanish speakers pronounce it /ʝ/ (voiced palatal fricative), while some other Spanish speakers in the Americas (especially Colombian and Rioplatense speakers, and in Tabasco, Mexico) pronounce it /ʒ/ (voiced postalveolar fricative) or /ʃ/ (voiceless postalveolar fricative). 70.67.193.176 (talk) 19:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Wiktionary entry for the masculine form gives some pronunciations. Help:IPA/Spanish indicates Spanish words and English approximations for the sounds. Jmar67 (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]