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October 15

London Company and Plymouth Company

I was reading the London Company and Plymouth Company articles and noticed that they had a large overlapping area granted to them both. What was the reason for this overlapping grant?

Overlapping grants could lead to conflicts, and the people who made the grants foresaw possible conflicts and built in a mitigation measure:

The overlapping area (yellow) was granted to both companies on the condition that neither found a settlement within 100 miles (160 km) of the other.

But my naive thinking is that avoiding any overlapping grant in the first place would be even safer. So presumably they had a very good reason for the overlap. Helian James (talk) 18:48, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wild guess: poor availability of reliable maps? DOR (HK) (talk) 21:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the overlapping area was ALSO the area claimed (and settled) by the Dutch (see Dutch West India Company and New Netherlands)... I suspect the goal was to encourage both of the English companies to cooperate against the Dutch. Blueboar (talk) 21:16, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe to encourage competition between the two companies? Alansplodge (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History of Tazewell County and Southwest Virginia, 1748-1920, p. 102 suggests that the intention was to create a "neutral zone" between the two companies. Alansplodge (talk) 10:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the details of this specific case, but there were a lot of overlapping territorial claims between the British North American colonies (later U.S. states) during the 17th and 18th centuries. Many of them claimed land between certain lines of latitude extending all the way to the Pacific ocean. It was one of the tasks of the Continental Congress under the Articles of Confederation in the 1780s to sort through these claims and free up western land for the creation of new states (see Land Ordinance of 1784, Northwest Ordinance)... AnonMoos (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, however, the overlap was between territories granted by royal charters to the two companies, issued at the same time. Those drafting the almost identical texts must have been well aware of the overlap; it can hardly have been other than intentional. --Lambiam 07:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, everyone!

Resolved

Detective Conan - The Disappearance of Conan Edogawa: The Worst Two Days in History

Hello. At the beginning of this TV special, can you find what language the two people are speaking? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.150.243 (talk) 21:46, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean "speaking"? Is it not Japanese? --Lambiam 08:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not Japanese but another language. There are also the Japanese subtitles while they're speaking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.167.14 (talk) 08:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have you found it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.223.128 (talk) 07:39, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a link where we can watch this beginning (without having to pay)? --Lambiam 08:56, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"9anime.to" or "gogoanime". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.223.128 (talk) 12:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those men are from the fictional Arasen government, then that language could be Polish, Ucrain, or some Asian country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.225.148 (talk) 09:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]