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[edit]Is there above average player movement between the Yankees and Mets or below?
[edit]Are interleague trades/other player movements more likely or intraleague? And of the intraleague is intradivision over- or under-represented? (relative to if it was random chance, if it was random chance 2/7ths of all intraleague trades and other player movements would be intradivision) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 03:00, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Trades between the two teams are rare, but there was one last spring (Joely Rodriguez traded for Miguel Castro in an exchange of relief pitchers). It's the same thing between other direct rivals such as the Yankees and Red Sox, or the Cubs and White Sox. Here's an article from mlb.com giving the history of deals between the two teams [1]. You will note that there are very few familiar names in that list. To answer the other part of the question, nowadays MLB operates as a single entity (since 2000); until the mid 1960s, trades between teams in different leagues were a rarity, but that has long ceased to be an issue. Intra-division trades are quite common. Xuxl (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- I found out the frivolities section Baseball Reference has a "who played for A+B searcher" and apparently a lot of the names I've heard of had teams in between (though trades is even rarer, I've heard of David Justice, maybe I remember Santana from reading about the 1986 Mets somewhere but there's so many Santanas in baseball and one in music maybe I don't) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- To do it right, someone would have to do a study of trades between all the teams for maybe the last ten to twenty years, and see if there is any statistical significance to the percentage differences. As I recall, historically the Cubs and White Sox seldom made trades with each other, but whether that was for marketing reasons or is simply confirmation bias, I couldn't say. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:25, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Do check the article I linked, which answers the question thoroughly. The most recent trade between the two teams involving players one might have heard of on both sides was in 2001, Robin Ventura for the aforementioned David Justice. There was a major leaguer for prospects trade in 2003 (involving Armando Benitez) and another trade of relief pitchers in 2004, and then almost nothing of note until last spring. They are clearly not common trading partners. Xuxl (talk) 14:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- To do it right, someone would have to do a study of trades between all the teams for maybe the last ten to twenty years, and see if there is any statistical significance to the percentage differences. As I recall, historically the Cubs and White Sox seldom made trades with each other, but whether that was for marketing reasons or is simply confirmation bias, I couldn't say. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:25, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- I found out the frivolities section Baseball Reference has a "who played for A+B searcher" and apparently a lot of the names I've heard of had teams in between (though trades is even rarer, I've heard of David Justice, maybe I remember Santana from reading about the 1986 Mets somewhere but there's so many Santanas in baseball and one in music maybe I don't) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- This page at Baseball Reference allows anyone to search for all trades between any two teams. The OP can use that to provide their own answers to their own questions. --Jayron32 14:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Baseball Reference has everything! Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it is usually the first place I go for sports stats in general. Just about any sport you can think of, the Sports Reference family of websites is amazing. --Jayron32 18:25, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Baseball Reference has everything! Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)