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December 4
[edit]Is each day of the week found in UK soccer team names?
[edit]Like Sheffield Wednesday. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:42, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you're talking about professional league football, then no - that's the only one. --Viennese Waltz 07:34, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- I found an amateur club called FC Monday First, who are so deep in the grass roots that they don't seem to have a website, but apparently are from somewhere in Leicestershire. Alansplodge (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- FC Monday does at least have a FaceBoook account. --T*U (talk) 13:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Then there is Sunday league football; not a team name but including many teams. -- Verbarson talkedits 17:07, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- So Sheffield Wednesday gave me the wrong idea about how far down the pyramid you'd have to look to find all the days. No one seems to want to imitate their name! (like Atlanta United, Minnesota United, Real Salt Lake, Sporting Kansas City, New York City FC (Manchester City) and Inter Miami imitating Europe teams) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- That's because the MLS is a relatively minor soccer league that is trying to piggy-back on more famous brands from well known leagues, rather than to try to build their own brand identity from scratch. It is basically Great Value soccer... --Jayron32 18:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- To be fair, MLS started off with many team names using a North American format, but this has been changing. For example, Sporting Kansas City used to be the Kansas City Wizards and FC Montréal started out as the Montreal Impact (or Impact de Montréal in French). The changes seem to have had something to do with being taken seriously on the international transfer market (at least, that's how the Montreal team justified a name change that was very unpopular with its fan base). There are still a few North American-styled names remaining, such as the New England Revolution and the three Pacific Northwest teams whose names all date back to the defunct North American Soccer League of the 1970s. Xuxl (talk) 18:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- "being taken seriously on the international transfer market" would generally be a symptom of the quality of play in the league and the quality of management of the teams more than team names. --Jayron32 19:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Which is exactly why the team's fan base found the explanation laughable. Xuxl (talk) 16:27, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- "being taken seriously on the international transfer market" would generally be a symptom of the quality of play in the league and the quality of management of the teams more than team names. --Jayron32 19:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- To be fair, MLS started off with many team names using a North American format, but this has been changing. For example, Sporting Kansas City used to be the Kansas City Wizards and FC Montréal started out as the Montreal Impact (or Impact de Montréal in French). The changes seem to have had something to do with being taken seriously on the international transfer market (at least, that's how the Montreal team justified a name change that was very unpopular with its fan base). There are still a few North American-styled names remaining, such as the New England Revolution and the three Pacific Northwest teams whose names all date back to the defunct North American Soccer League of the 1970s. Xuxl (talk) 18:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- That's because the MLS is a relatively minor soccer league that is trying to piggy-back on more famous brands from well known leagues, rather than to try to build their own brand identity from scratch. It is basically Great Value soccer... --Jayron32 18:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- So Sheffield Wednesday gave me the wrong idea about how far down the pyramid you'd have to look to find all the days. No one seems to want to imitate their name! (like Atlanta United, Minnesota United, Real Salt Lake, Sporting Kansas City, New York City FC (Manchester City) and Inter Miami imitating Europe teams) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- I found an amateur club called FC Monday First, who are so deep in the grass roots that they don't seem to have a website, but apparently are from somewhere in Leicestershire. Alansplodge (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Our article on Sheffield Wednesday explains that the name originates from a group of men who got together in the 1820s to play cricket on their half-day off, which was every Wednesday afternoon. So not really a formula that other teams might want to emulate. One suspects that the name has only survived to disambiguate the club from Sheffield United F.C., which also originated in a cricket club (you can't play cricket in the winter, so why not play football instead?). Alansplodge (talk) 12:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)