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June 13

Why is contemporary music so bad?

duplicate question, please answer at the humanities desk

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According to a scientific study, pop music has been trending to be more homogeneous since the 1970s. What is the sociological explanation for this trend? Czech is Cyrillized (talk) 02:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been asked and answered at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Why_is_contemporary_music_so_bad.3F μηδείς (talk) 02:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's this Indian folk song?

Can you recognize this Indian folk song? Or at least can you recognize the language or what part of India it's from? (From the context I do understand it ought to be Punjabi since it mentions a lost river of the Punjab. But is it?). Contact Basemetal here 00:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A pity no one could answer this question. No Indians here? No one knowledgeable about Indian folk music? I'd love to find out more about this style of Indian folk music. Are there any suggestions as to what other resources are available on the net for this sort of search? Contact Basemetal here 18:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I actually thought you had left out a timestamp and meant for us to listen through the 52 minutes in order to hear what you are talking about, but now I see you did set a timestamp, only, it doesn't work for me: This would work for me. Is that the spot you mean (tablas, bass flute, harp, etc.)? If so, My impression (but I'm no expert at all) is not one of genuine subcontinental folk music at all, but of a western composer's incidental music intended to give our western ears that mysterious ancient subcontinental feeling (the six composers credited for music at the end of the clip all have French-sounding European names). For what it's worth ... ---Sluzzelin talk 04:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No your time stamp does not land where the song is of course (I can still tell the difference between background music and a genuine folk song; in fact a translation of the lyrics of the beginning of the song appears on the screen): that's because 1329 seconds does not amount to 13 m 29 s of course but to 22 m 09 s. Try this. Incidentally I wonder why my timestamp (number of seconds) works for me and not for you (both formats work for me). Contact Basemetal here 04:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies to everyone for whom the timestamp didn't work and who thought I was expecting them to go through a 52 minute documentary (with no other clue as to where the song was!). Here is again the location of the song using two different timestamp formats: song (using number of seconds timestamp) and song (using minute and second timestamp). If neither timestamp format works for you: the song is 22 minutes and 09 seconds into the documentary. Maybe that explains why I had no answers? Contact Basemetal here 04:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is "timestamp" is the appropriate technical term? I would have said "time offset" but since I don't know I just followed Sluzzelin; I trust everyone understands what we're talking about Contact Basemetal here 07:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Probably not appropriate, no! Youtube occasionally call it "start time" which makes sense). Sorry about assuming you had heard the "Jungle-Booky" sequence as folk music, by the way, I honestly had no idea 1329 meant the number of seconds, nor did I know one could set it like that at all (in terms of seconds only). I don't think I will be able to help you identify the music you are actually asking about (which I've now listened to, thanks) but I'll try to ask around. ---Sluzzelin talk 15:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you (or anyone else) can identify the language of the song that would already be something. Also, if the lyrics are from a pre-existing poem (as is often the case in Indian classical music and even in Indian folk music) an identification of the poem would also be great. I tried all that with Google, but maybe not in a very clever way or maybe even in a not very clever way. The little bit of lyrics as they appear on the screen is: "The goddesses of the Ghaggar River / If we accompany them on the land of gold to the blessed river / If we thank them for the fertile land they gave us / We'll see our reflection in the river where magnificent fish swim". I would not expect the English translation to be necessarily very accurate. My guess is it is from a French translation of the original (or even, who knows, maybe it is an English translation of a French translation of an English translation of the original) as the film is the English version of a French/Japanese production. Contact Basemetal here 17:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]