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January 15

Abbreviation of "conquerors" in hymn

How would you shorten the word conquerors in a hymn so it's only sung as two syllables? I'm not sure which letters to remove so I'm unsure where the apostrophe goes. Thanks. (See Soldiers of Christ, Arise on wikisource, and it helps if you know the tune Diademata). The hymn article on Wikipedia is a current Did You Know. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 02:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Find a reliable source for the specific hymn in question (like a published hymnal or sheet music or something like that) and do what they do. --Jayron32 02:21, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would think it would be by dropping a letter in the middle, making it "conq'rors", as is done with words like "heav'nly" and "ev'ry". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Just skip the second syllable. A lot of people I know say it pretty much that way anyway. HiLo48 (talk) 02:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I skip the second syllable it comes out con'ors or con'rors. No good. (You've forgotten that I'm a thick Yank, HiLo). --71.178.50.222 (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bugs, how many fingers and toes does a wabbit have? You've dropped two letters. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 03:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As many as it needs. Yes, two letters, but one sound. I almost spelled it "conk'rors", which would also fit the pronunciation. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I followed Jayron32's advice and tried to find an old version but the ones I found don't shorten "conquerors". I guess people just know to sing it as two syllables. Thanks, Bugs, and everyone. I put the wikisource version back to the complete word. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 04:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I find Google Books results for conq'rer [1] and for conq'ror [2]. --Amble (talk) 15:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh, you're smart! Why didn't I think of that? conq'rors it is! Give yourself a page full of barnstars, on my authority. Thanks, Amble, sincerely. I'll change Wikisource to conq'rors. (I guess Bugs isn't such a dumb bunny after all, lol!) Thanks, everyone. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just to confirm that in our parish church choir, it's "conq'rors" which happily coincides with the Cockney pronunciation! I believe that the name of the game of conkers was originally "conquerors" but got mangled by generations of schoolboys into a new word. Alansplodge (talk) 12:40, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I concur (con-quer?) with that. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve a sharp conk on the head for that one, and I bet there will be many volunteers to be the conkers. StuRat (talk) 20:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC) [reply]

Please form an orderly queue, alphabetically by height, oldest first, women and children last for a change. Don't worry about me, I'm just experiencing a momentary episode of scherzo-phrenia. Unfortunately, it too shall pass. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:27, 17 January 2014 (UTC) [reply]

The movie "Election"

In the movie "Election" when Jim's (Matthew Broderick)world comes crashing down around him after his affair is discovered there is a sad, sweeping orchestral-style piece of music playing. Does anybody know what this piece of music might be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.142.45.141 (talk) 22:53, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The movie soundtrack listing [3] at amazon.com doesn't indicate any classical pieces. The amazon.com review says: " . . . Rolfe Kent's equally piquant orchestral score, dominated by Randy Newman-esque string and woodwind arrangements that are by turns playful and longing, is represented by a concise suite of cues. --Jerry McCulley". --71.178.50.222 (talk) 01:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb [4] shows a track at the end called "God Whispers to Constantine" written by Rolfe Kent—maybe that's it. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 01:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]