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October 29

Albums

Was The Best Of 1980-1990 U2'S first album? Was I Wanna Be With You Mandy Moore's first album? Was Robbie William Live Concert 2003 Robbie William's first and only concert album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.166.196 (talk) 02:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Technically So Real is Mandy Moore's first album. Obviously U2's first album could not be a best-of compilation; did you mean their first compilation? It was, if you don't count Melon: Remixes for Propaganda. Live at Knebworth (or Live Concert 2003) was Robbie Williams' first and apparently only live album. These were easily found at Mandy Moore, U2 discography and Robbie Williams discography. Adam Bishop (talk) 03:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Cartoon

Here in Australia, The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World (TV series) have been released on DVD. Why not the Super Mario Bros Super Show? Will it ever be released here? 58.170.198.49 (talk) 10:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this of any help: [1]?Leif edling (talk) 11:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No. 58.170.198.49 (talk) 11:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Identifying music

Hi all,

Fingers crossed someone out there knows this :) On Foxtel in Australia, for the advertisement for their replay of the AFL Grand Final this year, they used a very epic-sounding music compilation. It was also used by Total Football (a football [soccer] show) in their 2006-07 season review.

I managed to record the Total Football one using my phone; the albeit-poor quality recording can be heard here: http://boomp3.com/listen/c2bpc7km4_t/copy-of-record005

If anyone can tell me the name of the music in the background, it'd be awesome! Cheers, Daniel (talk) 11:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I tried but it said "could not open... try again later". Someone else might have better luck, Julia Rossi (talk) 11:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I had slightly better luck, I could play it but I still couldn't identify it. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 11:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Heard it now – quite the anthem – reminds me of sampling from an old coffee ad once (that do not have a name for) and a snip of love of beer type ads. Where is the archivist Jack of Oz now? Will ping him. Julia Rossi (talk) 12:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Ta. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you, Daniel, but I don't know it. I don't think it's anything in the standard classical repertoire, but they keep writing stuff that redefines what that genre means and I can't keep up with it. It has shades of Carl Orff's Carmina Burana (the source of O Fortuna, used in the famous beer ad with the 1000s of people with red and yellow costumes running through a large open plain). But I'm sure it's not from that piece. To me, it sounds like it could be from an epic movie with an oriental/exotic theme, and there are a vast number of film composers but I only know the tip of the iceberg in terms of names. Philip Glass comes to mind, but there's so much of his stuff that I've never heard. I could imagine it in something like Kundun - but it's been a long time since I saw it, so it might be worth checking that out. It's possible someone wrote it specifically for the footy ad. -- JackofOz (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thanks anyways. We even have an article on the Big Ad: here. I'll have a look at Kundun, and continue to send emails to Fox Sports to see if they'll tell me (no luck so far). Thanks, Daniel (talk) 01:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Reminds me a bit of Night on Bald Mountain (slowed). —Tamfang (talk) 10:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I know this one. It's called "Gothic Power" by Christopher Field, licensed by X Ray Dog. It is overused in trailer music. Kieff (not logged in) 189.112.59.185 (talk) 11:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, thank you so much! Daniel (talk) 15:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Mustang Sally

I have the song called Mustang Sally, 3:59 in length. I want to who has performed this one as it has been covered by many artists. Is it Creedence Clearwater Revival or Eric Clapton? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.36.86 (talk) 11:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Mustang Sally (song) article lists about 22 covers if any ring a bell. No mention of Creedence or Clapton though Bruce Springsteen is a contemporary. Julia Rossi (talk) 12:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Where did you get the version you have? If you have it on iTunes the ID3 tags may tell you who it is by. Or you could post a short clip here. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 13:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• Also, he's not listed but 10-year-old Sam Verlinden (best known in his home country of New Zealand) also covered this song. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Wilson Pickett got the most mileage out of it. DOR (HK) (talk) 09:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

It is from the soundtrack to The Commitments - a 1991 film which tells the story of some unemployed Dubliners who form a soul band. and checked for length 3:59 on frostwire; can also verify that it is a great music film. :)) 8:15 16 February 2009 AEST

BOSTON RADIO"S WHITE ALBUM WEEKEND

probably Nov 9-10, 1968. was it WMEX or WRKO? they played tapes of upcoming Beatles White Album tracks. I heard the same few over and over, so they probably didn't have many. ironically, only one i remember distictly (i wrote it down at the time as "sheepdog") wasn't on the album: "hey bulldog"! anybody recall the station, what songs were played, any background? thanx a ton! ---stolf

Anthology 3, released in 1996, is a compilation album containing lots of unreleased tracks from the White Album sessions, including some that were later released under alternate lyrics or on various Beatle solo albums. Perhaps the song can be found there? --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's the question...he just wants to know which station it was on and which songs were played. I don't think there would be any record of something that far back and the people in charge are probably all dead. Anyway, Hey Bulldog was recorded during the White Album sessions but appeared on Yellow Submarine, although there was a song about a sheepdog on the White Album, Martha My Dear. Adam Bishop (talk) 02:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, they're probably not all dead. A 25 year old DJ, working at said station, would be 65 today. Heck, some are probably still working DJs at this point. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 12:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Name of the storm theme in classical cartoons

In classic Disney and WB cartoons, whenever there is a stormy scene they use this particular piece of classical music. It's very energetic with wind and string instruments and cymbals. Anyone have any idea what music I'm talking about? 189.112.59.185 (talk) 17:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It's called "The Storm", from the opera "William Tell" by Gioachino Rossini.

Could also be Night on Bare (or Bald) Mountain by Mussorgsky. Disney used that one in Fantasia. Matt Deres (talk) 20:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It could also be the "storm" sequence from Beethoven's "Pastoral" Symphony, which also appeared in Fantasia. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

There's a sequence in Franz von Suppé's Poet and Peasant Overture that has frequently been used for storms in cartoons. (You can hear it here, beginning at 3:45.) My guess is that you're thinking either of this or of the second section of the William Tell Overture (here, beginning at 2:37). Deor (talk) 03:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

That was it! The second section of the William Tell Overture! :D Thank you so much! 189.112.59.185 (talk) 11:16, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

eggheads

What is going on it's different! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony May (talk • contribs)

It would help if you were more specific with your question. Are you talking about the TV show? --Onorem♠Dil 18:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's different. but how? This is a genuine question, not vandalism. Tony May (talk) 22:14, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Eggheads' format has changed (though it is now presented by Jeremy Vine), but they do have the additional show "Are You an Egghead?". If that's what you stumbled across. It's on earlier and is presented by Dermot Murnaghan. Fribbler (talk) 17:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

World Series highlights during rain delays

The 2008 World Series suspended game brought to my mind baseball rain delays when I was growing up. On the Game of the Week and often on local channels (when there wasn't a M*A*S*H or Hogan's Heroes for them to show) they would show highlights from a past classic World Series.I remember seeing 1969, most of the 1970s, 1981, once maybe 1984 (probably becuase Detroit is close to my Cleveland area), etc..

Who produced these? They had a feel like they might have been from the same people who produced This Week In Baseball way back when; in fact, I think Mel Allen narrated. Did they do all of the Series, or just ones that seemed historic or of local interest? After all, I never saw a 1976 Series highlight film during a rain delay, probably because it was a 4-game sweep; same with 1974 (a 5-game one, though all were close). How did each station decide which to show? Being near Cleveland, I can understand why Pittsbhurgh's 1979 seemed to be shown a lot on my local station. How far back did these highlight films go? I recall seeing 1964's once, though only 1969 and later otherwise. And, are they for sale anywhere? I thikn I read somewhere there were DVDs of different teams' World Series appearances, but I don't know if this would be them or not.Somebody or his brother (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

That's a really interesting question. I am not sure if Baseball has an analog to NFL Films; since all of the retrospective videos of World Series that I have seen seem to be taken from TV feeds, while the NFL Films Super Bowl retrospectives are filmed seperately by NFL Films themselves (and actually put on 16 mm FILM, not just video taped). I am certain that MLB has a media wing, perhaps they are produced in-house by the whatever that media wing is? Or perhaps groups such as Sports Illustrated, which frequently release video retrospectives of Championships of all major sports, produced them. Its an interesting question, and I am intrigued. I'd like to know the answer now too... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

MLB does have a division analogous to NFL Films, called Major League Baseball Productions. — Michael J 14:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know anything about how they were broadcast, but can provide answers to the other questions. Highlight films for the World Series exist all the way back to 1943, and were produced yearly, with the strike-shortened 1994 season being the only exception. If I remember correctly from when I've watched Yankees WS highlights, Chicago Film Studios produced the early films, but I'm not 100% on that. MLB Productions (which produces This Week in Baseball) had taken over the production duties by 1977, so I'd guess they started in the early 1970s, but haven't seen any highlights from that era. The DVD sets are of the highlight films in question, and most of them are avaliable on DVD; Amazon sells them, among others. The Yankees set that I have is five discs, but I think the others are on one or two discs. A few World Series, including 1995 and 1997, aren't avaliable on these sets, but VHS copies can probably be found if necessary, as all the old highlights were released in that format. Personally, I wish MLB would release a DVD set that contains all of the highlights, including those from the DVD-era WS. I'd be first in line to buy such a set, even if I have to put up with seeing Boston's championships again. :-( Giants2008 (17-14) 17:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

famous people

i was wondering if there was any famous guys that graduated in 1946. like a famous football, basketball player or a musician. thanks for the help. i got some yearbooks from that year or also the year 1948.

It might help if you told us what country you're talking about ("I'll take American for $1000, Alex..."), what part of the country you're talking about, and maybe what school(s) you're talking about. Just for laughs you could also tell us whether you're talking about high school, college, or something else. If you somehow manage to figure out what school the yearbook is from, you could check that school here on Wikipedia and see if any notable alumni are listed. Seriously, do a little of the work yourself. Matt Deres (talk) 23:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, some famous guys graduated in 1946. -- kainaw™ 04:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Tom Lehrer and I. M. Pei. You could check the entries List of Harvard University people, List of Yale University people, List of University of Oxford people, etc, and the entries for other colleges and universities, for college graduates. Entries for famous schools and military academies will have other figures. Due to the war interrupting many people's studies, there were probably fewer college graduations than normal.--Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 10:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Dear Billy; 2 Romona

Listening to Sinéad Lohan sing "2 Romona", I'm struck by the similarity of its melody to that of Janis Ian's "Dear Billy" (1981). ("The name of the certain kind of resemblance that it bears is: identity." Peter Schickele introducing the Erotica Variations) Does anyone know some history of either of these songs? —Tamfang (talk) 23:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• Is that Bob Dylan's song, "To Ramona"? Ramona come closer, shut softly your watery eyes? --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, though as he sang it the melody is much less similar to Ian's. (Evidently the caption "2 Romona" was added to the video by an idiot.) Adding twistiness, Dylan's song contains the phrase "trying to deal with the dying", which is in Ian's song "Bigger than Real" on the same album as "Dear Billy". —Tamfang (talk) 07:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)