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Portal:Submarine

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I am requesting this portal for peer review so I can receive comments about the structure, images, selection, content and colors, which are based loosely on Portal:World War II prior to FPC. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • lost • defense • attack) 21:33, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bencherlite

Firstly, I think this is a portal with an interesting subject field (worldwide topic, plenty of possibilities for displaying high-quality content) and you've made a good start. A few comments, questions and suggestions.

  • Firstly, I notice you've not used random subpages for the section. Is it your plan, therefore, to update the portal with new selections? If so, how often? I ask this because most, if not all, of the most recently promoted featured portals use random subpages rather than reliance on manual updating, and Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:London Transport/archive1 is an example of an FPoC failing on that basis, even when supported by an active WikiProject.
    • Operation Nautilus is supporting, and for now I plan to manually update, at least until prior to the FPoC.
  • "Good article" isn't a standard section title: "Selected article" would be more usual (or "Featured article" if all the chosen articles are of Featured quality, but that's not the case here)
    •  Done
  • Incidentally, if you're looking for GA and above candidates for inclusion, Wikipedia:CatScan is very helpful e.g. this GA search.
    • Will use catscan, thanks for the tip.
  • I think that having a "more good articles" link that goes straight to WP:Good articles isn't very helpful to readers of the portal. Even Wikipedia:Good articles/History#Warships would be better.
    •  Done
  • The news section: the current story has been deleted on Wikinews, which means your link goes nowhere... it's also a bit long in comparison to other portal news sections, and unless there are lots of news stories about submarines, a long story that goes stale will make the portal look out of date more quickly than a short summary of one or more stories. I wonder, instead, whether a better format would be one of the following:
    Portal:U.S. Roads/U.S. Roads news (a featured portal), with short new items and references (references shown on the main portal page, at the bottom);
    Portal:University of Oxford#News (not featured, but I'm quite proud of my work on it!), which has a combination of Wikinews and other items (with references shown on the portal subpage, but not the main page). This leads me onto my next point...
    •  Done to US Roads news
  • Searching Wikinews, I see that there are plenty of stories about submarines (accidents, diplomatic incidents, purchases etc) and I would have thought that a Wikinews category for submarines would be a viable option (said he, wearing his occasional Wikinews hat). Shall I see what I can do for you on Wikinews? You could then use the Wikinews importer bot for some or all of your stories.
    • Sure, I used a search for the Sub news, but only did the ones from October this year.
  • Your links for "current events" and "Wikinews" are the same, and both are broken... the syntax for links to the English-language Wikinews is just [[n:Name of article|Name of article]], or a simple [[n:|]] to link to the main page (n:). If you get a submarine category, of course, then you can have a link there instead of the "current events" link.
    •  Done
  • "Selected stub" isn't a section I've seen elsewhere on featured portals - can you point me to any? You ought to link to the article, otherwise no-one can easily visit it to expand it!
  • Are there enough decent biographies of submariners or others associated with submarines to have a "selected biography" section?
  • You need to add the portal to some categories: one (or more) for portals, and also to Category:Submarines.

That's all for now. Hope this helps. BencherliteTalk 13:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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