Wikipedia:Peer review/York City F.C. seasons/archive1
I have been doing some finishing touches to this article of the course of this day, and am doing this peer review to see what else can be done for it to go to WP:FLC. Thanks, Mattythewhite 14:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, APR t 02:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
[edit]Hi, good stuff, some comments...
- "...in the 1958–59, after..." - missing "season".
- Done Added. Mattythewhite 18:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- While not essential, I'd consider trying to create (even stubbish) articles for the top scorers without articles. Most if not all would naturally qualify for notability simply for appearing in a first-class match or two!
- Doing... Will get them made. Mattythewhite
- Done Articles created. Now I'm knackered. Mattythewhite 11:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Doing... Will get them made. Mattythewhite
- Not sure I look the left-align of the FA Cup & League Cup positions, keep it "center" in my opinion.
- Done Alignment changed to centre. Mattythewhite 18:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Is there any point in the Other competitions column with it (currently) being empty? Any success in FA Tropy/DFS Trophy etc you could add here instead?
- Doing... Would it only be competitions which the team have won in this column? I'm considering placing FA Trophy placings in here, considering there's no League Cup anymore. Mattythewhite 20:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, for ITFC, that column had placings in UEFA Cup, Champions League etc, Birmingham City put the Anglo-Italian cup placings there, so I think for the level YCFC play, it would be appropriate to highlight, say, QF and beyond in FA Trophy and any other lower league cup wins? Just a thought. The Rambling Man 06:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've added all FA Trohpy placings (all three seasons of it..). It'll fill in that column and seems fair, since thats sort of the replacement for the League Cup. Mattythewhite 09:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, for ITFC, that column had placings in UEFA Cup, Champions League etc, Birmingham City put the Anglo-Italian cup placings there, so I think for the level YCFC play, it would be appropriate to highlight, say, QF and beyond in FA Trophy and any other lower league cup wins? Just a thought. The Rambling Man 06:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Doing... Would it only be competitions which the team have won in this column? I'm considering placing FA Trophy placings in here, considering there's no League Cup anymore. Mattythewhite 20:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
That's about it for now, nothing major as you can see. FLC not far away. The Rambling Man 17:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
ChrisTheDude (talk · contribs)
[edit]The only thing I can see is a grammatical error in this sentence: "The club was formed in 1922, and later that year they were elected to...." - the subject of the sentence remains "the club", but the verb has jumped from singular to plural. Changing it to "The club was formed in 1922, and later that year it was elected to...." would sound terrible, so maybe change to "The club was formed in 1922, and elected later that year to...." Other than that, it's excellent ChrisTheDude 07:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done Thanks. Rewritten to how you suggested. Mattythewhite 10:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Might rewrite "Their only play-off victory came in the 1992–93 season, when they beat Crewe Alexandra on penalties, which won the club promotion to the Second Division." as something like "... when they beat Crewe Alexandra on penalties to win promotion to the Second Division." Also wikilink play-off.
- Done Rephrased to your suggestion. Mattythewhite 14:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Top scorer column note - might rephrase as Figures include league goals only. (I know it's obvious what it means, but if you don't leave anything petty for the FLC reviewer to pick on, it's less work later)
- Done Rephrased. Mattythewhite 14:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- As you've already got the names of the league divisions spelt out in the key, probably best if they weren't wikilinked for every season in the list (this has come up at previous FLCs).
- Done Removed most wikilinks. Kept them for the first time the division appears. Mattythewhite 14:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, i would include York's Associate Members cup/Football League Trophy record in the Other column. Agreed it's not as prestigious as the FA/League cups, but your list is supposed to be a record of York's seasons and the AMC/FLT is a compulsory part of the season for level 3/4 clubs (unlike my Anglo-Italian cup which so exercises our Ipswich-supporting friend ;-)). The information is readily available on York's FCHD page.
- Cheeky...! The Rambling Man 14:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done I've added AMC/FLC to the "Other competitions" column, but there seems to be one problem. The club participated in the FLC/FA Trophy in the 2004-05 season. They can both be added easily, but what if York had won or was runner-up in one of these? The box would be changed to gold/silver, but this doesn't match how far they got in both competitions.. Mattythewhite 14:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- My initial reply would be have a look at Manchester United F.C. seasons season 1999-2000 - so long as they won something the whole box goes gold. Aston Villa F.C. seasons likewise. Presumably the argument is that the colour highlights a season in which the club won something, rather than the actual competition won. (I don't have enough technical knowhow to do separate background colours for parts of a table cell, though it ought to be possible - try Help:Table or its talk page.) Struway2 | Talk 15:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's a relief. Thanks for clearing it up. Mattythewhite 15:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- My initial reply would be have a look at Manchester United F.C. seasons season 1999-2000 - so long as they won something the whole box goes gold. Aston Villa F.C. seasons likewise. Presumably the argument is that the colour highlights a season in which the club won something, rather than the actual competition won. (I don't have enough technical knowhow to do separate background colours for parts of a table cell, though it ought to be possible - try Help:Table or its talk page.) Struway2 | Talk 15:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- In general, before you put it to FLC you might have a look at the FLCs of previous seasons lists to see if there's anything reviewers have picked out that might be relevant to your list.
hope some of this helps, Struway2 | Talk 13:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)