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I've been working on this article sporadically for a while, and I'm looking for some input on what else to do with it. --PresN 05:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Big points:

  • Excessive use of quotes (like: "level", "Paradise", 'life', "sandbox", "leveled" and "Blood of a Divine") throughout the whole article. Things that have an unusual name (like level in Oblivion context) without an internal link specific for that meaning should be made italic (e.g.: level system), and those with an internal link should be not within quotes (e.g.: Paradise). Quotes from cited sources should be rephrased, or use {{cquote}}. The reception section is a huge clutter of quotes right now.
 Done
  • The Overview section is just a pile of information stitched together. Move the first four paragraphs to a 'development' section just before 'reception', and the last two to the lead section.
 Done
  • Section structure of the first few sections is confusing. Separate by world, lore, and story information, and Gameplay information. Move guilds a and playable races to setting, and write something about the gameplay. Check out Final Fantasy VIII, a FA, for a good example (though it names the section Plot, which I wouldn't do).
Split it up into sections, though I wouldn't call it done yet. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gameplay and Story need images.
 Done

Smaller points/nitpicking:

  • Try to cut some information from the infobox. Long infoboxes are not well-read. Make the image smaller as well - consider having only the logo and name as image, and use the full box cover somewhere else.
 Done
  • WP:LS. Lead section is poor.
 Done, I think. I tried to model it off of Final Fantasy VIII's. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gameplay of the Elder Scrolls series shouldn't be a main article, but a see also.
 Done
  • Guilds section is poorly written and unreferenced.
  • Story is too long. Cut non-essential information, or move to a separate article. A good way to do this might be to move the information to "The Elder Scrolls" articles instead of this one, like Cyrodiil.
  • Translation errors is a fourth-level section header, should be third.
 Done
  • Reviews table is too wide. Should be half of the page (on 1024) maximum, and even then the column of text next to it should be made text-align:justify with a div.
I narrowed it, but I'm not sure what you mean by text-align:justify with a div --PresN 01:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Done it myself - see my most recent edit. Non-justified text next to a table is unreadable. --User:Krator (t c) 08:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, now I see what you mean. --PresN 15:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Downloadable is an awful neologism, especially in a section header. Consider rephrasing.
 Done
  • Reorganise references to the official game guide. Twelve times the same reference is not good, I'm not sure how it should be done, but I do know that someone must have encountered this problem before, so a template might exist.
 Done
  • Why are only wiki fansites listed? This is Wikipedia, not a guide to all wikis. List a few fansites (three or so), and leave it at that. If one of these happens to be a wiki, so be it, but don't make exceptions for wikis.
 Done
I do not consider this done, really. It still lists these sites only. --User:Krator (t c) 08:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hashed it up again, only one wiki linked now. --PresN 01:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--User:Krator (t c) 22:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I would appreciate it the appropriate parts of this review could be marked with a {{done}} template, if any edits are made based on it, or made because of it.

Thanks! It has some pretty serious flaws, but they do get hard to see after a while. --PresN 01:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]