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The Catlins

User:Avenue and I have been attempting to improve this article to the point of FA nomination. I realise there's still some way to go, but any advice on improvements from here would be welcome. Grutness...wha? 01:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The lead should be expanded to fit WP:LEAD
Economy, History, and Transportation should be split up. History should immediately precede or go after Natural history.
Please use the   for the no-break space (25 kg). I fixed a few incidences, but the rest should also be fixed.
Please provide converted values for measurements in parentheses following measurements (of course using the above no-break space). See WP:MOSNUM.
Use standard abbreviations when using symbols (m instead of metre, ft instead of foot)
Not a direct concern, but please try to create articles for those redlinks.
The article requires inline citations- probably WP:FOOTNOTEs. Just providing 4 references doesn’t fit WP:WIAFA.
Can an infobox be used? Invercargill has one.

Thanks, AndyZ _t 02:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I'll try to get onto those points ASAP. As to the redlinks, that's what I've been doing since I started WP'ing today (there are now about half a dozen left than there were this morning). As far as an infobox is concerned, I'm not sure - Invercargill has one becoause it's a standard used for NZ cities. NZ's administrative regions have them too, but The catlins isn't either of these... I'm not quite sure what would need to be in it. I'll have a think. Grutness...wha? 02:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay - I think that's most of the points addressed. I'm still not entirely convinced about the order of the sections, but at least there are now numerous footnotes, nbsp'd conversions, and a reasonable leading section, and the number of redlinks is down from 26 to 10. Any further suggestions? Grutness...wha? 09:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For some examples of FAs that are about places, see WP:FA#Geography_and_places. I would suggestion the following layout: (1)Geography (1a)Climate (2)History (3)Population/Demographics (please provide demographics if possible) (4) Government (What type of government is there in this region?) (5) Economy -- and then the rest in w/e order makes most sense following that.

Transportation is rather empty- just one road and one rail line. Seeing that it is by the coast, isn't there anything else? (boat, plane, more important roads, etc.)

Citations should be added for numbers presented in climate

Per WP:CONTEXT, years without full dates should not be linked (oh never mind, I took care of it).

As shown in WP:FOOTNOTE, please move the citation after the period (w/o a space to prevent it from being bumped down to the next line). I'll do that speedily if you would like

As per WP:CITE please add citation information to external links under the references; consider {{Cite web}}

Try to avoid adding promotional sites to external links; see WP:EL

Please add image copyright information for Image:MegadyptesAntipodes.jpg- I doubt that GNU-FDL works here (see User talk:C00ch)

Thanks again. The article looks better now, but issues above should be addressed and it could be lengthened a bit. AndyZ _t 22:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reordered - check; citations for climate - check; citations after the full stops (no space) - check. Working on the full citations. Will need to find other references to replace the (very useful) ones on the promo site (sigh). Don't quite get the point about the image. GFDL seems to me to be exactly the sort of licence needed here - the comparison you give is to a cc licence (quite a different matter). If it's still a problem then I'll just have to find a different image. Then I can get on with extending the sections - some of which are very short after the re-ordering. Oh, and no - there's virtually no other transport to the Catlins - just that one road. Many thanks. Grutness...wha? 07:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've managed to extend a lot of the sections - even the Transport one (the Government one is still very skinny, but I don't think much can be done about that). And I replaced the penguin with a free-use sea lion (that sentence reads very oddly!) Grutness...wha? 10:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict) I suspect that AndyZ's concern about the image is whether the person who uploaded it had the right to put it under the GFDL (e.g. were they the photographer?). The first image queried on their talk page has been deleted, because they didn't respond to the query. This could happen to the penguin image too. -- Avenue 10:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah right. That makes sense. Anyway it's gone now, replaced by the sealion. Grutness...wha? 10:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]