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I've listed this article for peer review because i'd like to take it to FAC. Would appreciate feedback from @Femke and UndercoverClassist:, who left many comments at the failed FAC (but did not leave a supporting vote). Thanks, 750h+ 12:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops, @UndercoverClassicist: 750h+ 12:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping: at the moment, I don't have much to add to what I wrote at the FAC, but I'd be happy to take another look if the article's content were to change substantially. UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- It kind of has (went from around 5 and a half thousand words since you last reviewed to 6.1K) but I can wait until Femke leaves her comments if that’s fine. 750h+ 16:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping: at the moment, I don't have much to add to what I wrote at the FAC, but I'd be happy to take another look if the article's content were to change substantially. UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm very glad to see this PR. This is a tough article to get right due to the hype and hatred around Tesla, which means we need a more critical look at sources compared to other car articles. I will review some more, but not sure when as I've got family visiting and might have a long covid crash afterwards. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Got a few minutes, so I'll continue where we left off, the environmental impact section.
- The sentence about unintuitiveness still doesn't work for me. Now, it's unclear what unintuitive. The point the guy wanted to make is that Tesla's batteries have very high recyclability, not that it's unintuitive.
- It still doesn't make a lot of sense. He did not critizise this, he said it. I don't think you can critisize unintuitiveness. It's really not an important part of his statement, so I would not add it at all.
- all right, i've removed his entire part
- It still doesn't make a lot of sense. He did not critizise this, he said it. I don't think you can critisize unintuitiveness. It's really not an important part of his statement, so I would not add it at all.
- Dana Thompson is unlikely to be notable (she's a PhD student or postdoc I think). WP:Red links are for notable topics.
- should i remove her part?
- No, that wouldn't be necessary. Her being non-notable doesn't mean she cannot be attributed in-line. Just remove the red link. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- should i remove her part?
- In terms of organisation of the section:
- I would start with the CO2 emissions story, which in my (biased) opinion, is more important than the battery story.
- done
- I would group all the bits around recycling of batteries into one paragraph as much as possible
- this is a gigantic paragraph, i think i will have to leave it as two
- If we cut off the quote by Straubel, it should work I imagine (note that the first half of the 2nd paragraph is not about recycling, but about materials used).
- Done
- If we cut off the quote by Straubel, it should work I imagine (note that the first half of the 2nd paragraph is not about recycling, but about materials used).
- this is a gigantic paragraph, i think i will have to leave it as two
- I would start with the CO2 emissions story, which in my (biased) opinion, is more important than the battery story.
- It may be nice to talk about how Tesla repurposes old batteries as home batteries (reuse), rather than go the recycle route.
- A 2021 scientific study by iScience --> Usually, we don't say a study is by the publisher. The journal only printed it, they didn't write it. Best to say "A 2021 study" instead.
- Given that 2015 is 9 years in the past, the word "current" in "due to limited data on current recycling practices" is off. It can be omitted, or replaced with "at the time" after recycling practices. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Femke: thoughts now? Is there any way you think i should expand on "It may be nice to talk about how Tesla repurposes old batteries as home batteries (reuse), rather than go the recycle route", bit confused here. Sorry for the late response 750h+ 10:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Femke: 750h+ 05:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm working on vetting all the RfA candidates at the moment, so will be slow to respond. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Additional comments:
- Tesla Model S is the most profitable commercial battery pack --> of the three compared, which isn't all batteries ever. You could rephrase it as relatively profitable commercial battery pack or smth. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Noting that the third sentence of the first paragraph is still in the wrong location, implying that the second sentence is also UCS-related. Please swap sentence two and three. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ping|Femke}} I think these have all been addressed. What are your thoughts?{ 750h+ 10:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Femke: oops
- 750h+ 10:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much better! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 10:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- great. @UndercoverClassicist: do you have anymore comments? 750h+ 11:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd have a couple of small ones (there are a few typos and other nitpicks throughout) if it came back to FAC, but I think my concerns regarding NPoV and PROMO are generally gone. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I think with those gone I'll close this. Hopefully i'll see you both at the subsequent FAC. 750h+ 13:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd have a couple of small ones (there are a few typos and other nitpicks throughout) if it came back to FAC, but I think my concerns regarding NPoV and PROMO are generally gone. UndercoverClassicist T·C 12:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- great. @UndercoverClassicist: do you have anymore comments? 750h+ 11:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much better! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 10:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ping|Femke}} I think these have all been addressed. What are your thoughts?{ 750h+ 10:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)