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I've been editing this article for a while, and it seems fairly comprehensive and largely fact-checked. I'd be interested in improvements that can be made to the Perso-Arabic section as I am not as familiar with that writing system. I would also be glad of replacing the current images with better ones, but unfortunately they are quite hard to come by. All in all, any suggestions are welcome, and edits are welcome too :) - FrancisTyers · 11:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Andy t 14:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Some things I noticed right away:
- "The Tajik alphabet of the Tajik language" sounds very peculiar. Rewriting is made more difficult by the fact that the article title is something of a misnomer: there isn't a "Tajik alphabet" per se; rather, Tajik is written in any of three writing systems: the Latin alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet, or the Arabic abjad (each with various modifications from its original form to accommodate Tajik sounds).
- What would you suggest the article be renamed to? - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've been pondering that since I made the comment. Tajik writing systems? Written Tajik? (Although Written Tajik could be taken to be an article about the literary dialect as opposed to the spoken dialect.) Another option would be to keep the article at its current name but break with the tradition of beginnnig every article with the words "The {{PAGENAME}} is..." and instead start with "The Tajik language has been written with three writing systems..." User:Angr 15:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I thought of Writing systems of the Tajik language too, but that (as with Tajik writing systems would suggest that they were only for Tajik. I like your second suggestion and will implement that now. - FrancisTyers · 15:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rewritten, but it still reads oddly. As a note, Arabic is referred to as alphabet (which may be incorrect), but it is referred like this in Perry (2005). I'd welcome alternate suggestions for the first paragraph. - FrancisTyers · 15:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- That sounds good, although I've made a minor alteration. - FrancisTyers · 15:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've tried my hand at rewriting the opening and added a link to abjad. I wouldn't sweat the distinction too much. User:Angr 15:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- That sounds good, although I've made a minor alteration. - FrancisTyers · 15:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rewritten, but it still reads oddly. As a note, Arabic is referred to as alphabet (which may be incorrect), but it is referred like this in Perry (2005). I'd welcome alternate suggestions for the first paragraph. - FrancisTyers · 15:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I thought of Writing systems of the Tajik language too, but that (as with Tajik writing systems would suggest that they were only for Tajik. I like your second suggestion and will implement that now. - FrancisTyers · 15:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've been pondering that since I made the comment. Tajik writing systems? Written Tajik? (Although Written Tajik could be taken to be an article about the literary dialect as opposed to the spoken dialect.) Another option would be to keep the article at its current name but break with the tradition of beginnnig every article with the words "The {{PAGENAME}} is..." and instead start with "The Tajik language has been written with three writing systems..." User:Angr 15:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- What would you suggest the article be renamed to? - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- "The Latin alphabet is supported by pan-Turkists, who wish to bring the country closer to Uzbekistan and the other Turkic states in the area." and "The Latin variant for Tajik was based on the work by Turcophone scholars who aimed to produce a unified Turkic alphabet" are confusing statements because Tajik isn't a Turkic language, but an Indo-European one, a fact the article never states explicitly. (The article does mention that Tajik was formerly considered a variety of Persian, so a reader who knows that Persian is Indo-European and not Turkic can deduce that the same is true of Tajik, but not every reader will know that.)
- "The Latin variant for Tajik was based on the work by Turcophone scholars who aimed to produce a unified Turkic alphabet [5], despite Tajik not being a Turkic language. " It says it right there after the mention. - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, because you just added it! :p User:Angr 15:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- "The Latin variant for Tajik was based on the work by Turcophone scholars who aimed to produce a unified Turkic alphabet [5], despite Tajik not being a Turkic language. " It says it right there after the mention. - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I would recommend merging Comparison of Tajik alphabets into this article. Neither article is too long, and it's better to keep information together as much as possible.
Hmm, probably a good idea, although where would you suggest I put it? Before the See Also section?Done. - FrancisTyers · 15:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Please use the {{IPA}} template around IPA characters.
- Done. - FrancisTyers · 15:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Some of the images in the gallery are already found on the page.
Yes, I should fix this.Done. - FrancisTyers · 15:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)- Hmm, except now there are only two images in the gallery, which looks silly. Can't they be integrated into the page? If you do merge Comparison of Tajik alphabets into this article, you'll have more vertical space to put images in. User:Angr 15:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I think this is why I included them in the first place, agree with your suggestion.Done. - FrancisTyers · 15:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, except now there are only two images in the gallery, which looks silly. Can't they be integrated into the page? If you do merge Comparison of Tajik alphabets into this article, you'll have more vertical space to put images in. User:Angr 15:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Image:Soviet poster in tajik circa 1920.jpg has no source.
- I'll go and find one now. - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Proving to be more difficult than I originally thought... I've found a version here, but it isn't the version that was uploaded. - FrancisTyers · 15:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'll go and find one now. - FrancisTyers · 14:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- Image:Dushanbe 2.jpg has a fair-use claim that is inconsistent with its use on this page. (Technically this can be speedy-deleted under criterion I7.)
Indeed, this can probably be removed.Done. - FrancisTyers · 15:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- "The Tajik alphabet of the Tajik language" sounds very peculiar. Rewriting is made more difficult by the fact that the article title is something of a misnomer: there isn't a "Tajik alphabet" per se; rather, Tajik is written in any of three writing systems: the Latin alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet, or the Arabic abjad (each with various modifications from its original form to accommodate Tajik sounds).
- User:Angr 14:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)