Wikipedia:Peer review/Sylvia (ballet)/archive1
Ballet isn't the most popular of topics, so this page gets very little traffic. Basically just need more opinions on what can still be improved, hopefully up to FA standard. -- Rmrfstar 7 July 2005 01:17 (UTC)
- You are very correct that Wikipedia coverage in this area is poor, but the article Sylvia is good work. I would like to see more detail. The style section is good but rather brief. I would like to see a synopsis of the score as well like the one of the plot, and perhaps more technical information on the music. Similarly with the choreographies I would like to see how the versions differed and how they portrayed each scene. - SimonP July 7, 2005 01:48 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the suggestions! I added a bit to the Style section and also broke it up into Music and Choreography subsections, I'm not done with that yet though. About your last comment, I don't know how we would be able to compare different choreographies with that level of detail, they're copyrighted, (at least Ashton's is), I think... I'll look into it though. -- Rmrfstar 7 July 2005 03:46 (UTC)
- Also, what do you mean "synopsis of the score"? There is a list of "Musical scenes" the names of which describe where/how they're used. I did add a sound clip (coincidently from the same section as the sheet music) to help readers get a better feel for the music. -- Rmrfstar 7 July 2005 16:39 (UTC)
- Good work so far. By "synopsis of the score" I meant something similar to the movement by movement description you'll find in most symphony articles (see Symphony No. 6 (Beethoven) for a good example of this). - SimonP July 8, 2005 03:41 (UTC)
Ahh, I don't think I know enough about music write that, at least presently. I'll see if I can get a complete performance of the score so I can at least attempt it (I've been looking for one). -- Rmrfstar 8 July 2005 04:28 (UTC)what was I thinking, that would be original research... I made a comprehensive todo for the talk page which should be reviewed I think. -- Rmrfstar 01:40, 10 July 2005 (UTC)- I'm sure there have been published works analyzing the score, this would relieve both the original research concern and the difficulties with writing a technical piece on music (I would not be confident in doing so myself). The other option is to ask one of our resident music experts to lend a hand, we have many who are very able in this area. To find one try looking through some page histories in Category:Ballets and Category:Symphonies and see who it is that is adding the technical information. For instance the great information The Rite of Spring seems to mainly be the work of Hyacinth and Camembert. - SimonP 14:55, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
- I went to the public library today, and found many such analysis of scores, but none describing Sylvia's. Though ballet is not very well known, I expected at least some analysis of the score, the best-recieved aspect of the ballet. I have also searched extensively online and found nothing with which to fill the section. I shall look amongst my friends and fellow wikipedians for someone to write the musical synopsis section, (and go to another library). -- Rmrfstar 02:17, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Update I've been quite busy in the real world and haven't had a chance to work significantly on Sylvia recently. I have however found a few great print sources (focusing on the music) which shall be incorporated into the article maybe this weekend... -- Rmrfstar 01:00, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- I went to the public library today, and found many such analysis of scores, but none describing Sylvia's. Though ballet is not very well known, I expected at least some analysis of the score, the best-recieved aspect of the ballet. I have also searched extensively online and found nothing with which to fill the section. I shall look amongst my friends and fellow wikipedians for someone to write the musical synopsis section, (and go to another library). -- Rmrfstar 02:17, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'm sure there have been published works analyzing the score, this would relieve both the original research concern and the difficulties with writing a technical piece on music (I would not be confident in doing so myself). The other option is to ask one of our resident music experts to lend a hand, we have many who are very able in this area. To find one try looking through some page histories in Category:Ballets and Category:Symphonies and see who it is that is adding the technical information. For instance the great information The Rite of Spring seems to mainly be the work of Hyacinth and Camembert. - SimonP 14:55, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Good work so far. By "synopsis of the score" I meant something similar to the movement by movement description you'll find in most symphony articles (see Symphony No. 6 (Beethoven) for a good example of this). - SimonP July 8, 2005 03:41 (UTC)
- Also, what do you mean "synopsis of the score"? There is a list of "Musical scenes" the names of which describe where/how they're used. I did add a sound clip (coincidently from the same section as the sheet music) to help readers get a better feel for the music. -- Rmrfstar 7 July 2005 16:39 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for the suggestions! I added a bit to the Style section and also broke it up into Music and Choreography subsections, I'm not done with that yet though. About your last comment, I don't know how we would be able to compare different choreographies with that level of detail, they're copyrighted, (at least Ashton's is), I think... I'll look into it though. -- Rmrfstar 7 July 2005 03:46 (UTC)