Wikipedia:Peer review/Son Goten/archive1

Son Goten

I believe Son Goten is nearly a decent article; the article contains decent images, describes his appearance, and the like. But, I think the article has a lack of organization, verifiability, and information, if possible. SGFF 01:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• From the most obvious to the less obvious:
  1. The article is mainly written from an in-uinverse perspective (as if he were alive), while it should be from an out-universe perspective (talking as a character). See the guideline for fictional characters.
  2. No references.
  3. Image:Son Goten photo.jpg, Image:Songoten.jpg and Image:Gtgoten.jpg lack fair use rationale and source. Image:Bebi-Goten.jpg lacks fair use rationale.
  4. Without references or sources, most can be considered weasel and peacock terms, in example, Goten is famous for his mispronunciation, In Dragon Ball GT (which most fans consider non-canon), etc.
  5. Too much original research: It is possible that Goten had the potiental to become the strongest Saiyan., The ease at which he does so has been a matter of fan controversy, Another theory is that the strength of a child, It is unknown who won the bout but it is safe to assume that Goten won, etc.
  6. The name could use the {{nihongo}} template.
  7. Capitalise the first letter of the first word and proper nouns only; see the heading capitalisation guidelines.
  8. In the Power section, there is a bold Super Saiyan. There is no sense having a subtitle there.
  9. The movies and videogames sections are lists, which are usually frowned upon. Try expanding the character's participation there.

  That is all I can say after a quick glance. Overall, it would be nice if you could find references, and rewrite the article from an out-of-universe perspective (authors' comments, why he was named in that way, why Toriyama decided to make him similar in appearance as Goku, while Gohan was so different, when he first appeared in the manga and in the anime, etc). If you need more comments, I can do that sometime later. -- ReyBrujo 02:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the Japanese Wiki would be a good source (or other languages). We would need a translator for that, though. However, you can use Google as a translator. SGFF 03:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

No, you can use the sources the japanese Wikipedia uses, but you can't use Wikipedia itself as reference. -- ReyBrujo 04:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know what all this is about, but I'll do what I can. Kabuto Yakushi 10:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll see whta I can do about this. Hopefully the article can be a decent document within a month -- Kotenks 19:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Nihongo template added.--Rmky87 01:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Article doesn't mention Akira Toriyama? Is this some kind of cruel joke? Also, no sources given. Did Son Gokū have a son? I've not read Saiyūki. --zippedmartin 05:16, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Mentioning of Akira Toriyama has been included. SGFF 22:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Fair Use dispute solved SGFF 00:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Dispute #9 on this Peer Review has been partially satisfied (Video Games will be expanded soon). SGFF 01:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I believe Dispute #9 cannot be satisfied completely. See Son Goten's talk page for more details. SGFF(Would you like milk with your coffee?) 02:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

  That was just a thought, it is not necessary to fulfill everything. -- ReyBrujo 02:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)