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Simeon of Verkhoturye

I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to hear your suggestions and comments. It would be interesting to know if the article is understandable for English readers, or is there something you would like to know?

Thanks, Orel787 (talk) 11:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Comments from RO

Lead

• (Russian: Симеон Верхотурский, born 1607, died 1642),

I think those commas ought to be semicolons.

• The main feast day of St. Simeon is the 18 December (OS), or 31 December (NS).

That second article (the) is superfluous (not needed).

Biography

• Legend has it that Simeon was born to a noble boyar family in the European part of Russia.

I might be wrong, but I'm not sure "Legend has it" is an encyclopedic turn of phrase.

• (about 53 kilometers, or 33 miles, from Verkhoturye),

It's a good idea to put figures like this into the convert template, like this: {{convert|53|kilometers}}

• You linked righteousness in the lead, so maybe do the same here at the first occurrence after the lead.
• He died in Merkushino in 1642 and was buried in a graveyard by the church

Identify the church here.

• Translation of the relics
• The first paragraph in this section is uncited, so please source it properly. Same with the second half of the second paragraph in the section. Paragraphs should always end in a citation.

Sainthood

• Legend has it

Maybe this is acceptable given the topic, but it seems to informal for an encyclopedia.

• the church was burnt down by a fire

Since a fire is the only thing that can burn down a building, this is redundant.

• The Brotherhood of the Righteous St. Simeon

It seems this is a monastery, but you don't make that explicit enough at the start.

It was a bratstvo, linked

• The last paragraph of this section, and all others, should end with a citation.
• Opening, withdrawal and return of the relics
• The first, second, and last paragraphs of this section need citations.
• "some hooligans of white guards, in spite of my order as archimandrite, took away my horses and left their nags, on which nobody could ride".

This quote is currently uncited.

• on the feast day of St. Simeon with over fifteen thousand pilgrims gathering at the monastery

The proper verb form here is gathered, not gathering.

• but the costly shrine was seized for the hungry

Dis the Soviets confiscate the shrine to feed the poor?

Of course not.

• On 30 May 1929, the relics were seized from the monastery and given to a museum in Nizhny Tagil for anti-religious works.

What's an anti-religious museum/works? I'm not sure how this was used for anti-religious works. Please expand and explain.

I added a quote.

Conclusion

Not bad for a start, but it obviously needs a little TLC in the way of citations and copyediting. It's an interesting topic and the foundation of a fine contribution. Keep up the great work! RO^(talk) 19:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I made most of the corrections, I will do the citing later. Regards.--Orel787 (talk) 09:44, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

• Quick comment: It's very difficult to judge the reliability of the cited sources because of the lack of details in the citations. What are you citing? Are they peer reviewed journals, newspapers, personal websites of experts, random blogs? Fuller citations (citation templates can be very useful) would help with this issue. Josh Milburn (talk) 13:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)