Wikipedia:Peer review/Seinfeld (season 1)/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I want to try and promote it to featured article/list status and I also am not sure which parts need to be improved. I had nominated it for Featured List but some disagreed and said it should have been listed for Featured Article Candidate or at GA instead, so I would like to know where should I nominate this article at Featured List of Featured Article. I also am not sure which parts need to be improved. I would appreciate comments on what areas are lacking in comprehensibility, completeness, sourcing or any other area with an eye towards the FA criteria.
Thanks, Gman124 talk 02:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: Generally well done article, with some more work needed to improve it to FA or FL. Here are some suggestions for improvement:
- I would ask at Talk FLC and post a notice at talk FAC for comments at FLC and ask when an article is a list (for FL) and when it is an article (for FA). Complicating things here is the fact that while this is a short embedded list (only 5 episodes), the rest of the seasons will be much more list-y (as more episodes were made).
- A model article is useful for ideas on structure, style, format, etc. Smallville (season 1) is an FA and The Simpsons (season 1) is an FL. There are other TV season FLs too.
- In either case, the article needs a copyedit - for example Seinfeld later went on to become one of the most successful sitcoms, with a poll by TV Guide in 2002, named Seinfeld as the greatest American television program of all time.[6] could be something like Seinfeld later went on to become one of the most successful sitcoms; a 2002 TV Guide poll named Seinfeld the greatest American television program of all time.[6]
- The picture of the DVD says "Seasons 1 & 2" but the article just says "Season 1 & 2".
- Both model articles I mentioned list the episodes first, then other information. This article looks more like Smallville in terms of Production - does WikiProject Television have a season article guidleline to folow?
- Since this is about the pilot and first four regular episodes, I would expect the Casting section to have more information about why the actors were chosen.
- References look good, but is there anything more from third-party independent sources (much of it is from the show or its producers). Are there no books on Seinfeld?
- In Production, I think it would be useful to give a brief description of each of the characters (and not just their names). Jerry Seinfeld as himself, OK, but he is still a fictional version of himself. Perhaps "Jerry Seinfeld as a fictional version of himself, a stand up comedian," George is Jerry's friend who still lives with his parents, Kramer is the wacky neiighbor, Elaine is Jerry's friend and ex-girlfirend.
- With all fiction be sure to write from an out of universe perspective - see WP:IN-U
- In "The Robbery", Kramer makes his first sliding entrance ... I would link the episode title and move this someplace besides Production - what does this have to do with Production? Perhaps it would fit better with the waitress being dropped, the father's name and actor change, etc.
- Please use my examples as just that - these are not an exhaustive list and if one example is given, please check to make sure there are not other occurrences of the same problem.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)